DON’T DO IT!!! I repeat, do not do it! Seriously, if you ever hear anyone say that hydrogen peroxide can cure anything by drinking it or taking it intravenously; they are wrong.
Now I’ll tell you why the sudden interest in this particular subject. I recently heard a really funny science joke which goes as follows,
“two men go to a bar, the first man orders a glass of H2O. The second man says ‘I’ll have a glass of H2O too.’ The second man died.”
The joke is that H2O2 is the chemical hydrogen dioxide, commonly called hydrogen peroxide, which is deadly if consumed in large amounts. After hearing this I went online to see if there were any other jokes like that one. And this little website popped up. To give you an idea of how dangerous this substance can be, this link will take you to a lab supply’s warning about the handling and dangers of the 35% “food grade” hydrogen peroxide that they supply.
So if this stuff is so dangerous, why would anyone buy into the idea of drinking it to cure disease? It’s actually pretty simple when you look at what these people claim. They claim that they have the cure for cancer, AIDS, hepatitis, and many other chronic diseases. How can they claim this? Well they rely primarily on the work of Dr. Otto Warburg. Warburg believed that a lack of oxygen in the body’s tissues was the cause of cancer and that flooding the tissues with oxygen would reverse the growth of tumors. Now there are many things that cause cancer, but the key reason cancer cells develop is damage to the dna of the cell, which causes uncontrolled cellular reproduction.
This damage could happen for a wide and ever expanding set of reasons. But two things are clear. One, flooding the body with oxygen does not cure cancer. Two, the ingestion of hydrogen peroxide does not cure cancer, AIDS, or any other disease. In fact, the ingestion of hydrogen peroxide will very likely kill you. Let me explain how.
Hydrogen peroxide is an oxidizer. What this means is that it is an unstable chemical at the molecular level. See atoms/molecules have a little quirk about the number of electrons they have in the outer electron layer. If an atom/molecule doesn’t have the correct number of electrons in the outer most layer, it will do one of three things to correct this problem. One, it will give an extra electron to another atom/molecule. Two, it will take an electron from another atom/molecule. Three, it will bond with another atom/molecule.
Now hydrogen peroxide, being an oxidizer, takes electrons from the atoms and molecules around it in order to stabilize itself. This destabilizes the tissues that hydrogen peroxide comes in contact with; creating high concentrations of free radicals which continue to destroy tissues in the body. This is also why chlorine gas is so deadly.
So what happens to people who take these “treatments?” Typically, people who ingest solutions of hydrogen peroxide will experience erosion of the stomach lining, esophagus, and damage to the various tissues of the mouth. People who take these solutions through an IV will see deterioration of the veins, damage to the blood cells, and erosion of tissues near the injection site. If a person is lucky enough to survive when starting these “treatments,” they will die as a result of prolonged exposure to hydrogen peroxide.
This is a dangerous pseudo science that takes advantage of people in duress due to chronic illness. If you know anyone who is considering hydrogen peroxide “therapy,” tell them about the dangers and encourage them to seek professional treatment for their illness.
[Edit] Many people have asked me to provide studies for this article. Well here they are.
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/2006/ucm108701.htm
free 2 think
Sep 11, 2012 @ 02:49:18
Well of course hydrogen peroxide won’t cure anything like aids or cancer. What you need is MMS, miracle mineral solution. I would recomend that you read Jim Humble’s book. The Miracle Mineral Solution of the 21st Century.
Great Ape Thoughts
Sep 11, 2012 @ 04:37:16
I’ve done some research on MMS. I’m really glad that you told me about it, just not for the reasons that you were hoping for. I plan on writing a post about it, so if you want to talk more, just be patient. In the meantime, I urge you to stop taking this substance. It’s no good and could easily kill you.
Bruno
Jul 26, 2013 @ 22:56:28
Quick question: What do “These People” have to gain by tossing around this idea?
Great Ape Thoughts
Jul 26, 2013 @ 23:06:12
Could you clarify what you mean when you say, “These People?” I don’t know who you’re referring to.
Bruno
Jul 26, 2013 @ 23:09:05
Your own words: “t’s actually pretty simple when you look at what these people claim. They claim that they have the cure for cancer, AIDS, hepatitis, and many other chronic diseases.”
angeliquesgold
Oct 16, 2013 @ 15:14:51
Are you a doctor or cancer researcher?
Anonymous
Nov 04, 2013 @ 06:12:50
he’s (Ape) an idiot
sophie lemesurier
May 22, 2014 @ 10:20:21
I supposed you are saying do not drink neat peroxide? of course that would be crazy. But tiny amounts could not hurt, indeed many foods we eat contains hydrogen peroxide! yes! one example is honey… so do not panic thinking it is a toxic substance.
Anyway dentists would tell you that hydrogen peroxide is a good mouth wash. It is great as a face cleanser for acne suffers… Always use your common sense. Best health to all.
Anonymous
Jan 05, 2013 @ 04:42:17
People have been using this treatment since the 1920’s.
I have personally talked to many of the old timers who remember the influenza epidemic of that era and they remember the fact that many peoples lives were saved due to hydrogen peroxide therapy. I have friend named Rich Musgrave of Central City Nebraska. He had one of the worst cases of shingles the docs had seen in the area. The doctors fed him all their treatments and failed. Dr. Miller of Ord Nebraska issued
him a treatment of hydrogen
peroxide therapy and the shingles were gone after I believe two treatments. Fully and historically documented.
Great Ape Thoughts
Jan 07, 2013 @ 13:20:42
While those are interesting anecdotes, I don’t see the scientific studies to show evidence. What if your friend had a delayed response to the other treatments for his shingles? Or, what if it was actually a combination of the other treatments that didn’t manifest until he began the hydrogen peroxide therapy?
The best way I can explain my point with this is by quoting youtube scientist C0nc0rdance, “the plural of anecdote is not data.” Science has found many cases where the direct cause of damage to the body came from direct exposure to hydrogen peroxide in concentrated amounts, it’s been studied to death. On the other side, the only evidence of the substance curing disease through ingestion comes from the stories that people tell. The problem with this is that the scientific community has no way of measuring these results. Was it really the hydrogen peroxide that fought off influenza? Or, did those old timers do something else that helped them fight the disease that they didn’t know about or realize, instead attributing their survival to the “miracle cure” that they were told helped them?
On a positive note however, I’m glad that your friend did manage to fight off the shingles. I’ve seen that disease in action and I can’t imagine what he had to go through. But your friend was exploited by Dr. Miller in his time of desperation.
marc mulcahy
Aug 03, 2013 @ 16:13:26
Direct exposure of “concentrated amounts” is the problem. Many things that are healthy for you will turn harmful if taken in excess. Just how often are there serious problems or fatalities with h202 taken properly? Seems like the only stories of bad medicine come from the long line of continuous recalls by big pharma. And there are countless of these “interesting antidotes”, including my own, which I trust more than Merck and phizer. Why is it always a delayed reaction to some drug rather than healing from something that is not a drug. Medical science has proven to make and even hide their mistakes regularly so who are you or some or many so called scientists who are paid by a company in the pharmaceutical business to say that h202 doesn’t work when so many people have experienced positive results–often after exhausting medical science.
Marc
Oct 08, 2013 @ 05:21:42
HERE, HERE! I am a fifty three year old male who has watched and witnessed over the years the scientific community say that certain things are either good or bad for you to then turn around and tell us that other studies have shown that they are to the contrarie! I would rather take the word of the many testimonies over the word of the so called know it all’s who’s end goal is the all mighty dollar! The key here is in proper doses. ie. Water is a central element for life. But who would have ever thought that drinking to much water can kill you!
Vince
Jan 05, 2014 @ 05:41:02
I agree, actually hydrogen peroxide treatment is very sucessfully implemented in Russia by professor Neumivakin, who cured incurable patients by it. OBVIOUSLY – those who preach against hydrogen peroxide, are having AGENDA of siding up with STATE MEDICINE, which brings them long bucks. Thats the only reason. Fuck them! We will do what majority of good and honest people reported it was beneficial. Ape, you can stick ur article up your arss.
angeliquesgold
Oct 16, 2013 @ 15:17:55
i think i love you marc..lol
keith
May 01, 2014 @ 19:21:10
You say ” I don’t see the scientific studies to show evidence. ” Are you surprised by this. Who is going to pay up to a £1 million to prove something they cannot make money on because it cannot be patented.
Big Pharma make billions from drugs but think about it, how many drugs do they market that cure ANYTHING. There is no money in curing people.
Michael De Santis
Jan 08, 2013 @ 21:34:41
I’ve only heard of adding 6 drops to 20 drops of over the counter H2O2 (which is already very diluted, ~3% ) per cup (8 fluid ounces, or 240mL) of water before using. I would like to see more documentation on it’s use and effects for treating various conditions, especially cancer. While it’s true that there are a more than a few “quack cures” being promoted, I believe that there are more than a few low cost, safe, over-the-counter cures for many conditions that get very little media coverage.
Great Ape Thoughts
Jan 08, 2013 @ 22:44:34
From the data that I have gathered, H2O2 does kill harmful pathogens, and can be used on the human body provided that it only gets on skin, minor cuts, or is swished around in the mouth without swallowing. When it comes to cancer, H2O2 can damage cancer cells, but it’s like saying that arsenic can cure disease; yes it does kill the harmful bodies, but only because it kills all cells in the body.
Now when it comes to medical science not finding cures for chronic illnesses such as cancer, HIV, or AIDS, there is always a chance that something was missed. However, scientists that dedicate their lives to curing these diseases are some of the most hard working and passionate people you could ever meet. As a result, I’m pretty sure that if H2O2 had legitimate uses in curing these diseases, they would have found them by now.
Jose Lopes
May 25, 2013 @ 11:59:43
Monkey see, Monkey do… That is most doctors today… they do not cure or threat the real illness, then just put you on Pharma’s “Lifetime Maintenance System”… So if that is so great, count me out… The one who think them selves i have respect for. Those who only follow “Protocol/Procedure” are just followers… not leaders….-and never will be… and a lot of them know this, but just have an extra drink after work… All IMHO of course…
Wouldn't you like to know?
Jul 19, 2013 @ 03:38:39
Quite CORRECT there,VERY FEW DOCTORs OUT THERE THAT ARE “REAL DOCTORS”MOST ARE JUST PUPPETS FOR DRUG COMPANIES!!!
Anonymous
Jan 21, 2014 @ 19:28:32
It happens that your right
duncanmcdougal
Jul 22, 2013 @ 12:02:13
Isn’t that the way ChemoTherapy kills cancer too…?
Great Ape Thoughts
Jul 22, 2013 @ 20:00:18
chemo therapy can be controlled, unlike ingesting hydrogen peroxide. Small and highly studied doses can be targeted directly into the cancerous tissues. Drinking hydrogen peroxide would only oxidize the tissues of the mouth, esophagus, and stomach. It would never reach the cancers unless they were on the surface of those tissues only. Even then, hydrogen peroxide would destabilize the surrounding tissues which would make them more susceptible to becoming cancerous.
In addition, if hydrogen peroxide is injected, the oxidation could easily cause internal bleeding, air bubbles in the veins, and necrosis of the flesh around the injection site.
Bruno
Jul 26, 2013 @ 23:23:00
They’re very diluted doses of H2O2. Your body makes H2O2. Also, I’m not sure if you understand how things that are consumed enter the bloodstream – thus not affecting just the mouth, and throat.
People aren’t guzzling bottles of store bought Hydrogen Peroxide – and I don’t think anyone is suggesting they do so. And even if they were, how would it be to any of their benefit? Perhaps all these people own drug stores and they’re trying to re-vamp the Hydrogen Peroxide sales at $0.88 per pint.
It’s a huge conspiracy. I think you’re on to something.
Marc
Oct 08, 2013 @ 07:36:00
There is one major factor missing from your analogy!
It’s called greed and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
Like the old saying goes.
Those who have the gold rule!
How many times have we heard of grate inventions and ideas that could greatly benefit humanity only to have big corporations come along and shut them down! ie The technology for vehicles to get 100 miles plus to the gallon has been around for a very long time, but patents are refused and funding becomes impossible!
And all because of the all mighty
Vince
Jan 05, 2014 @ 05:43:47
Ape thoughts, better shut up and leave, its obvious for everyone here that you are ignorant about medicine. What a waste of time!
Janice Shields
Dec 31, 2013 @ 01:17:08
That’s a joke.
Mark Ross
Jan 14, 2013 @ 05:58:49
Please offer documentation of people being harmed through proper use of hydrogen peroxide therapy. So far, I understand you are concerned, but you have not offered any proof or documentation that H2O2 therapy, if don’t properly, is harmful. Your suggestions that it is, are merely theoretical at best. I am not saying either or. Just saying that you don’t offer enough info. to validate your opinion. The warning you recommend reading on the back of the bottle based on the usual store bought h202 you can get at walmart, NOT the food grade version. Keep in mind, the recommended dose to swallow is like 3-25 drops per 8 ounces of water. This is a very diluted amount. I have tried it myself and experienced NO ill effects at all. Again, I am not defending drinking it, or h202 therapy. I am still experimenting and researching. However, your site is simply opinion based. Offer more info. please.
Great Ape Thoughts
Jan 26, 2013 @ 11:00:52
Thank you for calling me out on that. I kinda forgot that I wasn’t offering the hard data when it came to subjects like this. I’m somewhat busy with school and my personal life at the moment, but I will gather the research on this topic and include it in this post. I will also do the same for past posts on similar subjects. If you can be patient for a little while, and I believe that you can be given the intelligence and open mindedness of your response; I will give you those studies.
ken
Feb 01, 2013 @ 01:56:37
Just an FYI you never want to use over the counter H2O2 it has stabilizers in it that are very bad. Use of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide has been shown to cure pretty much everything since the 1920’s
If you do some research as to why fda and ama say h2o2 is bad and “snake oil” you will find some interesting information. ive seen actual documents from big pharm amongst others pulling funding to medical schools and discrediting them as a medical school if they taught h2o2 as a therapy.
sounds to me like big pharm and everyone else saving their asses
like i have said for years, there is no money in a cure only treatment…
Great Ape Thoughts
Feb 08, 2013 @ 20:49:58
Well, the problem with “food grade” H2O2 is that it’s not intended to be consumed. It’s intended to be used in cleaning food and food processing machinery. If you look at the studies that I linked to at the bottom of the post, you’ll see the dangers of consuming “food grade” H2O2, which really should be re-named to avoid this confusion.
Rachel
Feb 08, 2013 @ 21:01:18
Actually “Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide” is the ONLY peroxide suggested for internal use…thus the term FOOD GRADE! 35% technical/reagent grade and 35% standard grade hydrogen peroxide’s are used to clean machinery…how can you write an article on the subject of H2O2 and not even know the various grades of hydrogen peroxide and their purposes? The grades are as follows:
A) 3.5% Pharmaceutical Grade: This is the grade sold at your local drugstore or supermarket. This product is not recommended for internal use. It contains an assortment of stabilizers which shouldn’t be ingested. Various stabilizers include: acetanilide, phenol, sodium stanate and tertrasodium phosphate.
B) 6% Beautician Grade: This is used in beauty shops to color hair and is not recommended for internal use.
C) 30% Reagent Grade: This is used for various scientific experimentation and also contains stabilizers. It is also not for internal use.
D) 30% to 32% Electronic Grade: This is used to clean electronic parts and not for internal use.
E) 35% Technical Grade: This is a more concentrated product than the Reagent Grade and differs slightly in that phosphorus is added to help neutralize any chlorine from the water used to dilute it.
F) 35% Food Grade: This is used in the production of foods like cheese, eggs, and whey-containing products. It is also sprayed on the foil lining of aseptic packages containing fruit juices and milk products. THIS IS THE ONLY GRADE RECOMMENDED FOR INTERNAL USE. It is available in pints, quarts, gallons or even drums. Various suppliers are mentioned later in this article.
G) 90%: This is used as an oxygen source for rocket fuel.
This information can be easily found here: http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml
Great Ape Thoughts
Feb 08, 2013 @ 21:09:02
Like I said, educate-yourself.org is not a credible source for information. I would really recommend that you look over the studies that I posted at the end of the post. One of them details a man who consumed food grade hydrogen peroxide and the health effects that he suffered from that.
Rachel
Feb 08, 2013 @ 21:19:09
I read the reference you cited of the 39 year old man that ingested 35% Hydrogen Peroxide. Although the bottle was unlabeled, and I didn’t read anywhere as to the exact grade of H2O2 the man ingested, he ingested HALF A BOTTLE which is 250mL. That is an insane amount and, excuse my bluntness, the consequences of his own stupidity.
Normal 35% Food Grade H2O2 therapy is 3-20 drops (from a glass eye dropper) in 10-12 ounces of water twice per day. If you were to drink the amount this man drank, you’d be dead too and it’s no wonder he died. This is not a viable reference to compare proper H2O2 therapy to. This would be like me accusing toothpaste of being dangerous as a general whole when some….moron decided to eat 5 tubes of it.
Great Ape Thoughts
Feb 12, 2013 @ 02:37:04
This is true. If I had the money to afford subscriptions to peer-review literature I could have easily given you better data. However, the studies that I could access all show that H2O2 is a powerful oxidizer. It strips the electrons from living tissue, ALL living tissue; not just pathogens or cancer cells. If you consume large amounts of it, it can kill you. If you inject it into your vascular system, you get air bubbles in your blood and suffer from internal bleeding. And if you dilute it as much as you say you should, it would only react with the cells in your mouth and throat before degrading; meaning it would never even get to the pathogens in your blood or internal organs.
I have yet to find a peer-reviewed, professionally published study that proves the effectiveness of this “therapy” by the modern scientific model. So far, I have only seen anecdotal stories from people or claims that it works because the “government/big pharma/ivory tower scientists” are suppressing it for some gain. And to quote a great scientist, “the plural of anecdote is not data.”
I can tell that I’m not going to convince you that hydrogen peroxide therapy is not valid, and is in fact dangerous. So this is me respectfully exiting the debate. You have a few studies that you can go over, and you’re free to do your own research. But I have other things I want to talk about on this blog. Thank you for debating me, and for giving me my next topic in a round-about way. Best of luck.
Anonymous
Jun 19, 2013 @ 16:07:50
Probably the same dangers as to taking any other medication if you ingest to much… Really..
Mike
Jun 24, 2013 @ 02:11:31
You might want to do some more reading.
Great Ape Thoughts
Jun 24, 2013 @ 05:56:01
care to give me some sources? Cause I’m currently reading A Game of Thrones, so I’m doing alot of reading.
Mike
Jun 24, 2013 @ 18:47:54
The is a book out called “The One Minute Cure” by Madison Cavanaugh. Also there is a book titled “Hydrogen Peroxide, Medical Miracle” by William Campbell Douglas MD. I have only read “One Minute Cure” and I use hydrogen peroxide internally every day and am still here and a lot healthier because of it. No side effects.
Anonymous
Jan 08, 2014 @ 03:12:28
I am currently researching to see if this is a viable alternative for arthritis in my knees which got really bad this year. I did buy the book The One Minute Cure which explains in chapter 4 how to make sure you handle it properly. I am still cautious and haven’t started as I want to be sure there won’t be side affects. This therapy dates back more then 170 years and has been used in India. I find it interesting that the author here does not understand the dilution of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide with 8 ounces of water and starting with 3 drops.
Refer to page 74 for the suggested table for the therapy. So Great Ape your research should be based on this recommendation not if someone drank half. A bottle. I am going to continue to research before I proceed. I am highly allergic to medications including vicodine, Celebrex, and ibuprofen which the doctors have prescribed and the FDA approved. in one situation i had to be taken to the emergency room after taking 2 ibuprofen pills. So I am looking for an alternative. So please do some thorough and balanced research.
BK
Jan 08, 2014 @ 03:24:18
I am currently researching to see if this is a viable alternative for arthritis in my knees which got really bad this year. I did buy the book The One Minute Cure which explains in chapter 4 how to make sure you handle it properly. I am still cautious and haven’t started as I want to be sure there won’t be side affects. This therapy dates back more then 170 years and has been used in India. I find it interesting that the author here does not understand the dilution of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide with 8 ounces of water and starting with 3 drops.
Refer to page 74 for the suggested table for the therapy. So Great Ape your research should be based on this recommendation not if someone drank half. A bottle. I am going to continue to research before I proceed. I am highly allergic to medications including vicodine, Celebrex, and ibuprofen which the doctors have prescribed and the FDA approved. in one situation i had to be taken to the emergency room after taking 2 ibuprofen pills. So I am looking for an alternative. So please do some thorough and balanced research.
hersh
Aug 15, 2013 @ 01:28:17
That is so true! It will never gain traction in the medical community! Too cheap!
I have been taking H2O2 for years. Have not even had a cold since I have been taking it. Also use it as a deodorant too.
Anonymous
Dec 16, 2013 @ 07:54:48
You are a fucking idiot!
I took hydrogen peroxide for 1 monyh anc almost died!
Rachel
Feb 08, 2013 @ 05:48:55
I hope you realize that the first hydrogen peroxide label you show asking “why would anyone want to drink this stuff to cure disease?” is of a 3% pharmacy grade hydrogen peroxide that is NOT meant to be taken internally. There are many grades and concentrations that are used for various purposes.
For treating and curing disease/cancer/bacterial and viral infections you’re only going to use 35% FOOD GRADE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE. Information on the various grades and their uses can be found here (about halfway down the page): http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml
Suggesting that people taking H2O2 for therapeutic purposes are drinking the 3% crap you get at the pharmacy is just ridiculous and misleading!
Great Ape Thoughts
Feb 08, 2013 @ 20:58:18
I hate to be the one to say this, and you probably won’t believe me, but educate-yourself.org is not a credible site. It is full of conspiracy theories, pseudo-science, and many other ideas that have no valid proof.
Also, I’m not being misleading when I say that people consume both “food grade” and “pharmacy grade” H2O2. Many of the sites and doctors that recommend these therapies either don’t make the distinction, or simply advise an either-or approach.
Rachel
Feb 08, 2013 @ 21:08:06
That’s fine if that’s your opinion about educate-yourself.org, but never in all my years of personally using, discussing and researching 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide therapy have I EVER seen or heard of ANYONE recommending drinking 3% hydrogen peroxide that you purchase at the pharmacy or grocery store. That is just plain crazy. Also, if you don’t trust educate-yourself.org’s H2O2 grading table, here is another one exactly like it. The grade tables are correct on both websites: http://www.h2o2-4u.com/grades.html
Steven
Mar 06, 2013 @ 06:27:05
Please keep an open mind Your thoughts that the medical community would be touting this therapy “if it worked” is absurd. If this therapy worked one tenth as well as is documented, Big Pharm would (and has) do everything and anything to keep this knowledge under wraps.
There is WAY too much money being made for Big Pharm to “cure” ything… All they want to do is put more and more pills in our system. And they are not always correct themselves. Remember the Vioxx debacle that killed so many that “trusted” the medical community and Big Pharm?
I test my case
Great Ape Thoughts
Mar 12, 2013 @ 06:46:57
You do have a point. Pharmaceutic companies are subject to the human flaws of their CEO’s and trusties. They also have an obligation to turn a profit to their share holders. However, people who enter the pharmacy profession tend to want the best for people. I personally know a young woman who entered the profession because her mother nearly died due to a doctor’s misdiagnosis. She is one of the most caring and compassionate people I have ever meet. Yes there are flaws and greed in the system, but I do not believe that these companies are inherently evil, or up to no good.
Now when it comes to the idea that there is no money in a cure or they are trying to suppress a cure, I would like to propose a hypothetical situation. Let’s say that hydrogen peroxide therapy did cure the diseases that it supposedly cures. Companies would make millions off of this cure by making hydrogen peroxide a controlled substance. Since it is dangerous to consume in un-regulated doses, the pharmaceutic companies would simply pay off politicians to make it illegal to purchase H2O2 without a prescription. This would then drive up the price and put money in the pockets of the industry.
While it would be nice if the health care industry was more honest and helpful to the public, the idea that they are collectively hurting the public to turn a product is an over-extradition. It is also not valid evidence to say that the suppression of a product/service is proof of it’s validity. This falls under the concept of “conformation bias.” To truly keep an open mind, the validity of any claim needs to be examined on it’s own merits, not the claims of other people.
Bruno
Jul 26, 2013 @ 23:34:33
The people who work in the pharmacies believe the same things that you do, because the FDA is GOD. The FDA couldn’t…. wouldn’t… lead us astray. Never.
I guess I appreciate you writing this post, but it’s funny how you have to argue with every single person who posts a response to this post. Surely, everyone else is crazy.
Pammy
Jul 20, 2013 @ 13:38:15
We are brain washed from media. Your doctor really doesn’t know very much about what makes your body healthy. They don’t care to keep you healthy because they would be out of business. Thanks for your post
Robert
Mar 17, 2013 @ 22:05:23
I am considering use of this product to treat fungus internally. As I read your posts “Great Ape” I am amazed at your lack of research, “Ape”, the first thing you need to understand is, contrary to your belief the medical field is in babyland, and don’t have cures for many things out there. This is why people take matters into their own hands (Note to medical professionals, stop worrying about money and start saving people). Remember the word oxidizing agent simply means one element can break down another via a chemical reaction as you described above. (Its not a scary term by any means)
Pure hydrogen peroxide has a pH of 6.2; thus it is considered to be a weak acid. The pH can be as low as 4.5 when diluted at approximately 60%. Lower at 50% and so on. Ph of soda (Coke is 2.5 rounded). You want to dilute to that consistency if used so you dont burn a hole through your stomach.
As I was reading through WikipediA, I found an excerpt as follows:
“The study in Nature suggested asthma sufferers have higher levels of hydrogen peroxide in their lungs than healthy people, which could explain why asthma sufferers have inappropriate levels of white blood cells in their lungs.”
This suggests that we produce it naturally. As I did more research, I found that aging or dying cells produce H2O2 (At low levels). This would lead me to believe that we may be trying to invoke a healing process. More research will be conducted to prove this out.
Ah, you will all be interested in the following:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080102134129.htm
Introduction:
Todd Lowther, Ph.D., developed a three-dimensional snapshot of how two proteins produced by cells interact to regulate the levels of hydrogen peroxide “in the body”.
It basically states that our body has a built in mechanism to disburse H2O2 via peroxiredoxin (prx) “that our own cells produce”, however H2O2 at high levels, this protein will shut down and stop the reduction of H2O2 because it gets damaged in the process, which is my mind where ingestion can become dangerous. Like the body, if you where going to use it as a therapy, It should be done in short intervals. H2O2, is a toxin to our body, however serves a purpose in healing. One of the issues I see is, if you already have a high production of this element H2O2, and you add more, you could be causing yourself a lot of damage, However, it deserves my interest from what I have read so far.
H2O2 is used naturally by the body to fight bacteria, however should be used in low levels, I would dilute it more than 30% so the body can remove it. I still don’t know its affects on fungus as of yet, but I will conduct my own experiments to conclude.
Conclusion:
I believe this could be used, provably for bacteria issues, i.e. infections. I seen no supporting evidence that this treatment will cure anything else. As humans we have a lot of bacteria in our bodies, so I imagine that the immune response you get from ingestion is positive in the short run, and thus can be used in the short term. Long term, I imagine that you will kill off your ability to remove H2O2 from you system and end up with a toxic overload in your system. This means, if you use it, use it one week on, one week off, even at small doses to give your body time to repair the Prx protein via sulfiredoxin (Srx).
Please keep in mind, I am not a doctor, and neither is “Ape” we are just smart people doing research of other smart people, my advice, dont read the hype adds of people trying to sell a product, do your own research to come to a conclusion.
Doctors still use this treatment, and make no mistake, in high amounts this element can kill you (Like any drug can). If your going to do anything like this, you should be monitored by a doctor to test H2O2 levels (if such a test exists), if your a doctor, chime in.
In short “Ape”, stop believing the hype before you read (Bad Hype, Good Hype). I makes you appear less intelligent than you are (You seem like you have a good head on your shoulders, you just need to be an intuitive thinker). try to develop some of your own theory’s via research instead of simply reading the chemical grade H2O2 excerpts at concentrations of 90% undiluted and regurgitating that data. Your better than that. Come back at this post with some real data, people want to know the answer because people are sick, and doctors dont have the answer, doctors, chime in any time.
(Doctors, The only profession where you don’t have to do your job to get paid. Its easier for you to call the patient crazy, than it is for you to do research to find out what may be the cause of the issue. (TO MUCH WORK I GUESS))
Oh, doctors, if the above research is wrong, its doctor publications I use, maybe you should agree on facts instead of theory’s, theory’s help nobody.
Great Ape Thoughts
Apr 21, 2013 @ 06:47:05
First of all, thank you for not flat out attacking me in your comment. It was very appreciated. Now on to your points.
I have talked to two pharmacists and a pediatric trauma surgeon about the production of hydrogen peroxide in the body. And they all told me that the body produces H2O2 as a result of damage to the cells. While this process can kill off pathogens in the body, it is not an intentional process. When you cite the fact that asthma suffers have higher levels of H2O2 in their systems, this is because of an improper absorption of oxygen. I would also like to point out that I have asthma so I have learned a lot about the condition.
I would also like to point out the logical falicies in your argument, not to attack or belittle you, but to make a point about research. First of all, the fact that H2O2 is found in the human body does not automatically mean that it’s okay to introduce it into the body. If I were to use Hurley’s Logic to construct a similar argument, I could say that there are cities that are colder than Siberia, therefor, global warming does not exist. You have to take into account the idea that cause and effect works both ways. It could be that the world is getting colder, but it could also mean that Siberia is getting warmer. Until proper experimentation is conducted, cause and effect cannot be assumed in any direction.
It also doesn’t help your argument when you say that all doctors are in their profession for the money. I don’t doubt that there are doctors who care more about their paycheck than their patients. But you can’t paint all doctors with the same brush. Plus, if someone only cared about money, there are many ways to make money that are a hell of a lot easier than the years of intense training it takes to become a doctor. Try to stay away from statements that hyperbolic.
Sean
Jun 25, 2013 @ 17:11:16
Thank you for that last comment about doctors always being in it for the money. It urks me when I see people say that. Specicifically because my mother is a PA. I know that’s not a doctor, but it’s pretty dang close. She sacrafices 2 days of her work week to volunteer at the Mooresville Free Clinic. (The Mooresville Free Clinic is a clinic that helps people that cant afford help for free). I’m not saying all doctors are in it for the patients, but there are some definitly some out there.
Skitz
Oct 19, 2013 @ 09:32:10
Mate, you are losing the argument time after time. There have been many posts by people who have used and have been using this compound as recommended for many years – including myself and I SWEAR BY IT as do my parents. Prior to taking H2O2, I would get the Flu nearly every year. Since taking H2O2, no such misfortune. Now you can quote all the references and dodgy peer reviewed literature from the establishment who have everything to gain by keeping such success BURIED but from my experience and those of those I know who are on the H2O2, nothing but rapture and health. Your arguments fall on deaf ears, not because of poor education but from ENHANCED education – born from a willingness to seek answers from sources other than those that have been bought and paid for by big pharma. Massive profits are on the line, however those who are touting the successes of H2O2 have NOTHING to gain. Self evident as to who we can believe hmm ?
martin
May 01, 2014 @ 13:33:21
h2o2 is a compound not an element mr smart guy
Anonymous
Mar 24, 2013 @ 18:40:58
My thoughts are , You are basing your decision making on research that is available TODAY , and not in the future . The way the body uses Hydrogen Dioxide is very complicated and not yet fully understood.
Hydrogen peroxide has long been known to damage cells and their DNA, but scientists have recently uncovered evidence that points to a more beneficial role: it appears to act as a signaling molecule in a critical cell pathway that stimulates growth, among other functions.
SOURCE
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100307215528.htm
I would go on evidence of actual physical trials , and base my conclusion on real evidence of real people experiences not he say she say .
I have read enough to know that it is safe , if used correctly and in very diluted doses as it works on a cellular level.
Maybe in the Future we will have real proof of who is right.
Great Ape Thoughts
Apr 21, 2013 @ 06:11:45
I’ve read the article and the paper that it references. The one thing that I noticed in both of them is that neither one says that people should add H2O2 to their system, just that it exists in the body and can kill pathogens. I would recommend that you look into oxidative stress. We don’t fully understand the relationship between the human body and H2O2 and we shouldn’t be assume that it’s safe until the scientific community has more knowledge about the idea.
Mark Ross
Apr 22, 2013 @ 15:16:26
Yes, but the problem is NO ONE is researching it. I took the stuff myself for about a month. I don’t know if it did anything for me or not. However, I am fine. Nothing bad happened to me. I started out at 3 drops of food grade h2o2 in 8 ounces of pure water. Eventually I got up for 25 drops. Not a problem at all for me that I noticed. Although, I will admit, I stopped because I got tired of doing it and it tastes horrible. However, if I had a health crisis, I would go back to it and try it again. I am not 100% sure it is safe or how safe it is, but I am just telling you my experience. By the way, whoever the “anonymous” is, you should allow people to contact you if this works. They might need insight from you, and being anonymous makes your credibility void.
Jan Smith
Apr 05, 2013 @ 08:23:40
HAS to be food grade and HAS to be diluted to SAFE concentrations. Please do not deter people from healing themselves. This is kept a secret because there’s no money in it…plain and simple. Just like the italian oncologist who discovered that cancer is a fungus and can be cured with baking soda. He has CURED many with simple baking soda….so why is this not being studied here? Because of MONEY…pharm companies would go bankrupt. Hydrogen peroxide floods tissues with oxygen…oxygen makes it hard for cancer to survive. Just like baking soda turns the body alkaline…and cancer (fungus) can’t survive in an alkaline environment.
Great Ape Thoughts
Apr 21, 2013 @ 06:20:04
I was going to let this topic go and just let commenters debate among themselves. But, I have to correct this particular claim. CANCER IS NOT A FUNGUS! If cancer was just a fungal infection, we would have cured it already. The medical community has had anti-fungal medication for a long time now. Hell, I have anti-fungal medication in my medicine cabinet to cure athlete’s foot. And if you think it’s an issue of money, the more powerful medications that kill harmful fungus are still prescription only drugs.
We know what cancer is. It’s the unregulated growth of damaged cells that interfere with the proper function of bodily systems. To anyone who is reading this discussion, do not believe the claim that cancer is just a fungal infection. Seek proper medical treatment for cancer.
Warthogg64
May 08, 2013 @ 02:50:00
Sir – With all due respect you wrote “We know what cancer is. It’s the unregulated growth of damaged cells that interfere with the proper function of bodily systems. To anyone who is reading this discussion, do not believe the claim that cancer is just a fungal infection. Seek proper medical treatment for cancer.”
And then what? Let the doctors pump you full of chemotherapy which is a poison? Cancer is two things:
1. Population Control. If you die at a young age, the government doesn’t have to pay you back any of that money they took from you for years called Social Security.
2. A way for big pharmaceutical to legally make billions of dollars every year which some of it is funneled back through to the FDA to ensure that cures like H2O2 never make it on the market.
Now before you dispute what I have just said,ask yourself what happens to a single persons unclaimed social security when they die? Have you ever heard of their parents, family or friend getting it? I goes back to the government and no one sees it again.
Jan Smith
Apr 05, 2013 @ 08:45:14
By the way…I’d encourage people to look up the many benefits of hydrogen peroxide therapy for many upon many illnesses. But you must follow the protocol of ONLY food grade which has been DILUTED to safe percentages in distilled water….EXTREMELY Important. HAS to be distilled water it’s dropped into with an eye dropper or else the chlorine will ruin it. Don’t take an hr before or 3 hrs after eating.
There is no money in CURES. Especially extremely inexpensive cures.
Anonymous
Apr 09, 2013 @ 02:37:05
Did you every try it? I was on multiple antibiotics, had an open-heart surgery, couldn’t breath, but now I can & I’m not taking pills any longer. It was a miracle for me. It is true I don’t know what will happen in the future, but now I can enjoy my life as I did 30 years ago. But you know what? Don’t take it if your pills work. My didn’t & it was hard to convince myself to drink the H202. Good luck!
Jennie
Apr 28, 2013 @ 16:14:02
My vet suggested that I give my dog hydrogen peroxide so that he would regurgitate an inedible object that he swallowed. He never did, but became sick throughout the night. This was 3.5% drugstore hydrogen peroxide. I felt very horrible that I had harmed my dog as I gave him about 20-30ml. He survived, and is fine a year later, but now I am doubting the efficacy of using it as a vomit-inducer as my dog and everyone else has no trouble drinking it.
Mark Ross
Apr 30, 2013 @ 22:02:07
Jennie, you don’t understand. NO proponent of H202 is recommending you use the regular store brand. That stuff has all kinds of toxic chemicals in it that stabilize the h202, where as FOOD GRADE H2O2 is PURE. AND, you gave the dog waaaay too much at a high concentrated level, even if it was food grade. SO, this is a terrible and irresponsible example. Think about it. Vitamin C is great for you, but if you take too much, it gives you diarreah. Same with Magnesium. In fact, if you take too much potassium, it will kill you! BUT, potassium is a necessary nutrient. Again, I don’t confirm or deny the use of food grade h202, but all these examples that are negative, have NOTHING to do with whether H202, if used properly, is good or bad.
Brenda
May 18, 2013 @ 03:02:34
While I have no first hand experience with hydrogen peroxide curing disease, I have found it to be a wonderful replacement for chemicals in my home. The issue I have with nay-sayers, though, is that many would be quick to advocate a “treatment” for cancer such as toxic chemotherapy, but will down a more natural approach such as peroxide? If faced with cancer, you can bet I would go with peroxide before I would go with chemo. I know plenty of people who have gone through painful chemo, only to die shortly after, after living a miserable existence during the treatment. If my odds were slim anyway, I am going with the peroxide approach personally.
Darrel
May 20, 2013 @ 17:21:54
Just want to add my experience with H2O2, food grade. I had been exposed to the Herpes virus and had some very unpleasant sores in a very sensitive area if you know what I mean. I read about the H2O2 therapy and began drinking it, and ramping up to the dosage of 25 drops 3 X daily. Sores went away.. After maintaining maximum dosage for a short time, I reduced the amount to the maintenance dosage. After a while I got lazy and tired of the bad taste and stopped.. a couple months later, geuss what returned? I am now taking it again for the last several months, and no return of the sores. I feel better when I take it, and I am happy to deal with the bad tast verses the sores.. I have never vomited or had any other negative effects of drinking it, however I am careful to not have anything (food) in my stomach, and I never eat anything for an hour after taking it. I have no idea if it really is a cure for all the stuff like cancer, etc.. but I can tell you it helps with my condition.. Thanks for reading..
Jamie
Jun 11, 2013 @ 21:04:22
I read the joke you mentioned on a different website. I didn’t under stand so I looked it up, a website came up with many different uses for 3% hydrogen poroxide and it said to swish in mouth for 10 minutes a day to get rid of mouth sores it didn’t say to put any water in it for anything I was going to take their advise but before I did I did more research. Your Article changed my mind and could have possibly saved my life. Thank you
Great Ape Thoughts
Jun 18, 2013 @ 05:42:05
I’m glad that I was able to educate at least one person about hydrogen peroxide. If you’re still paying any attention to this little debate, please take this one piece of advice to heart. Don’t blindly follow medical advice you find on the internet. Talk to a trusted doctor about any major changes to your medical regimen that you plan to make.
Anonymous
Jun 17, 2013 @ 06:44:02
the FDA are the exact ones that don’t want a cheap natural cure.. great source!
Great Ape Thoughts
Jun 18, 2013 @ 05:21:38
If you wish to believe that a group that consists of thousands of people are able to hide an intricate plot to derail a cure for diseases when the secret service can’t hide a few people hiring prostitutes within their own ranks, then you have every right to.
But just ask yourself, could you organize a group of thousands to do something that would hurt millions of people without having a few people leaking the evidence of your scheme?
If someone can give me credible evidence that the government has been suppressing a cure for cancer, aids, or any other chronic disease, then I may be willing to talk the issue out. But, if there were such a conspiracy, I doubt that any organization could hide the evidence of their actions in this day and age.
Bruno
Jul 26, 2013 @ 23:48:16
It’s a matter of belief, sir. You believe it because they say so. It works with religion, politics …. basically everything. If you can convince a population that you only want to help them, they’ll support you, give you money, and vote for you. Surely, for such a smart guy, you can’t be this naive.
royalestel
Dec 29, 2013 @ 23:08:51
Now this one isn’t so hard. In the US, the medical community has a monopoly on dispensing medical advice. It is illegal for anyone else to say anything about medical treatments. If they do, they are subject to litigation and removal of their licenses for their professions. There may be some folks in big pharma and the FDA that want to suppress info on hydrogen peroxide, and there are certainly many good people in both organizations that would never do such a thing as suppress good info.
I think the issue is more one of perspective. The medical community and big pharma have no reason to pay any attention to H2O2 it at all. They are businesses and must engage in profitable activity. Their main focus is the treatment of diseases, not on increasing health. This distinction sounds subtle, but over the last 50 years I think has clearly shown that disease oriented questions as the basis of medical experiments have yet to find cures for any significant chronic illness. In fact, per capita chronic illnesses have increased exponentially, as have the use of drugs and surgery to combat them.
If hydrogen peroxide is not a specific cure for a mechanism that scientists have nailed down to a particular disease, but rather a palliative that increases general body health, and then the body itself has greater resources to combat the disease, medical science would have a really hard time finding it. Imagine performing an experiment where you try to prove or disprove the causal effect of something that increases general health. There are quite a few things that get in the way of proving any definitive causal relationships unless you can watch the entire thing go down, in one event, in the microscope.
But really, there would be no reason to even research it, since there would be no profit in it. Since hydrogen peroxide is something that nearly any chemical company can profitably make, there would be a huge cost of research in proving causal health effects, with no monopoly on distribution of the substance, so no way to turn a profit. Thus no reason for big pharma to research. No chemical company is going to jump into FDA research either. The idea of trying to make it a controlled substance to make a profit is a poor business plan.
I don’t know if H2O2 taken in low concentrations does increase general health, but there’s no way a peer-reviewed paper will ever have a longitudinal study of it, because there’s no money in it. We’d need some trust fund baby to be interested enough in it to fund the research for general knowledge. However, there have been several testimonies by folks here that have safely taken it. Unless they are lying, I’d say taking it under the watchful care of a doctor you trust should be harmless, scare tactics denying.
See the thing is, and anecdote is a data point, just a useless one for determining cause and effect for everybody. It’s a good enough one for me to try it though (I mean really, we make decisions based on anecdotes all the time).
Anonymous
Jun 19, 2013 @ 16:00:39
If you did your research, you are not suppose to but 3% at the drug store. It has more than just peroxide in it. You are suppose to ingest the diluted 35% food grade.
Mike
Jun 23, 2013 @ 21:09:38
The writer of this article did not do his homework. There is more than one type of hydrogen peroxide. Also there are different percentages. There are two different grades. One to be used internally and one should not. It is amazing that the writer went to the store and bought a bottle of hydrogen peroxide and now is an expert. Prescription medication will kill you if you use it incorrectly. I don’t like to call anyone ignorant. But in this case, it is the appropriate word.
Great Ape Thoughts
Jun 24, 2013 @ 06:01:00
Well, if you look at the pictures that I gave, and the articles I posted links to, you would see that I covered the different grades of H2O2. That one pic of the warning label that classifies hydrogen peroxide as a flammable and corrosive substance is not from the 3% pharmacy grade. So before you call me ignorant, please read the entire post and pay attention to the details.
Mike
Jun 24, 2013 @ 18:54:05
I don’t remember calling you ignorant. I don’t know you. However, you may want to read a book out titled “The One Minute Cure” by Madison Cavanaugh. Also there is a book titled “Hydrogen Peroxide, Medical Miracle” by William Campbell Douglas MD. I have only read “One Minute Cure” and I use hydrogen peroxide internally every day and am still here and a lot healthier because of it. No side effects.
Josh B.
Jun 24, 2013 @ 00:40:34
I’m surprised that anyone considers the F.D.A. to have any credibility whatsoever!! Frankly, they’re the pseudoscience dimwits killing everyone!
“A,commercial comes on television. Two beautiful people in an unrealistic environment. They’re holding hands or looking into the sunset on a beach in hawaii perhaps.
It’s an add for a drug, “F.D.A. approved”, and the possible side effects are hideous.”
FAST FORWARD 3-6 MONTHS…….
“A commercial comes on television. It’s about the same drug mentioned above. You know.., the one F.D.A. approved?! Except it’s an attorney letting you know that your dead loved one who was killed by this monster drug is not the only one who was killed as a result of taking the F.D.A. approved drug mentioned above. Now you’re entitled to take part in a class action lawsuit which you might receive 100k from in exchange for your loved one’s life!”
Excuse my french, but f.uc.k the fda. They have absolutely ZERO! ZERO! ZERO credibility left.
Anonymous
Jul 19, 2013 @ 16:32:42
despite your foul language I say AMEN!
There is way too much money involved to let ANY “cure” cat out of the bag. Natural cures are more difficult – and yet way more effective; however, you must change your lifestyle. People do not want to change their lifestyle and get healthy, they want to take a pill for the rest of their life, and why not, the co-pay is only $5-$10.
Ivona
Apr 15, 2014 @ 15:49:41
I agree with you on F the FDA. They make so much money pushing big pharma. It makes sense why people who have said they found a cure have either disappeared or been jailed. Whats wrong with this picture? If the FDA says its good, you know its bad! If they say its bad you know its good!
TheSparko
Jun 25, 2013 @ 07:16:25
okay, I see your cause of concern.
I also recognize everyone’s immediate dispute involving the practice of medicine, pharmaceutical companies and the legitimacy of oxygen therapy as a whole.
After researching, and really just getting a strong insight on the whole phenomena – I’ve noticed that your argument for the danger of FOOD grade (35%) on the human body is completely justified. Food grade peroxide is extremely hazardous to the body – and will cause burns & death if ingested.
However, now I ask you keep an open mind about this. Firstly, the correct way to actually ingest hydrogen peroxide is to dilute it. there are different measures for how much one should dilute it, but the general idea is to dilute it down so it does not cause any severe problems. Oxygen toxicity and internal burns therefore no longer become an issue – because the amount you actually take in is very dilute. The idea is to take it over a longer period of time, in small dosages.
I would also like to address the inherent problems with your ‘studies’. Without meaning to be rude, but those links are not studies at all, they are in fact articles from government-backed websites that only serve to agree with my previous statements. Yes, 35% Food grade HP WILL cause some serious problems if one is misinformed enough to ingest it. Furthermore, none of your articles provide any specific information as to how much Hydrogen peroxide has been taken. I have avoided mentioning the evermore visible systemic problems with the foundations of our modern healthcare structure – but it is important that I point out that this concern of HP being dangerous is a fallacy in it’s own right.
‘Food grade’ HP is being sold illegally due to the idea that normal, brown bottle over the counter HP contain unsavory stabilizers, and other preservatives. This is seeded from a large distrust of the FDA, and pharmaceutical companies alike. The truth is, a 3% bottle is comprised of 97% distilled water, and 3% HP – nothing else. When in contact with sunlight, the HP will naturally dissolve into into it’s more fundamental components – hence why it is kept in a brown bottle. So, the idea of this ‘food grade’, 35% solution is product that solely adheres to the paranoia of the public. The FDA is trying to stop illegal sales of this product because yes, it is dangerous if ingested, but it also fails to recognize that the FDA, combined with other pharma companies are the sole reasons that this product is being shipped illegally in the first place. The only way to solve this is to take some advice, and just stick to ordinary brown bottle stuff. After checking the back of the label on my own brand of HP – I’ve discovered that it contains Phenacetin and phosphoric acid. Phosphoric acid is contained within coca cola, and phenacetin, which is contained in vicks cold tablets and is a non-opiod pain reliever. These are both completely harmless when taken in such small amounts.
Now, in terms of HPs effectiveness at fighting disease – this is probable something that most of us here have actually overlooked. You seem to use the word ‘pseudoscience’ to describe it. But is there the slightest possibility that you have perhaps misjudged this entirely and jumped to conclusions too quickly? I mean, yes – you do have a legitimate concern for high concentration HP being sold uninformed buyers – which would result in dangerous outcomes. But now that we have established that no longer becomes an issue if a sensible dosage is taken – could there be room for now a legitimate, working theory as to how HP does actually help the body?
If part of you is thinking yes, then I shall try and explain as briefly as possible. Let’s go back to the start – you ingest HP in a sensible, non harmful dosage. You get a massive boost in oxygen going throughout your whole system – this will seem pleasant too, as it will give you more energy. and sure, it will kill off bacteria as it doesn’t live in the presence of oxygen. But this won’t cure cancer or do anything spectacular at all. The real ‘miracle’ is in what it does to your body’s pH. It turns it into an alkaline state. Now, what’s the significance of this you may ask? well this study: http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthurston/Killing_Cancer_Cells_with_High_pH_Therapy.html <– shows that high ph therapy actually kills cancer cells. Of course, this study is actually exclusive from HP all together , as they treated the patients with Cesium, and not HP.
I understand that this may not be conclusive evidence to a skeptic, but I hope not to convince you with a mini essay I wrote at 8 in the morning, but only to expose you to the possibility that there is something far more significant that we, and the modern world of medicine have overlooked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXWXhp6aFuw Here is a video of a doctor who is well established with this new area of medicine – he will confirm the mechanics of how HP actually works, and also give insight into a case of pH/oxygen therapy. My main critical point is that oxygen therapy basically works under the principles of pH therapy (increasing pH). And thus, oxygen therapy is only a redundant term.
That's it (:, forgive me for any poor grammar, as i wrote this at 7 in the morning, so it's a little raw! I would also like to apologize for the length of this post and would like to thank you for your patience in reading it.
Great Ape Thoughts
Jun 26, 2013 @ 01:01:16
Well thank you for writing a well thought out response. It is true that there are many factors that go into the cure for cancer, and the ph of the environment is one of them. The problem with using hp therapy is that when hp is diluted as much as it is, it oxidizes with the tissues in the mouth and throat. This means that the substance would never make it to any cancer cells. The other risk from the use of hp in the body comes from oxidation stress. This happens when cells are exposed to oxidizers, which damage the dna and can lead to cancer development. It’s something that does need to be looked into, but until we know more about these issues, the public should avoid treatments that are currently known to do more harm than good.
Skitz
Oct 19, 2013 @ 09:41:26
From what I understand, H2O2 diluted in the body does not oxidise normal healthy human cells as they are protected by enzymes, whereas unhealthy cells and organisms are not.
Anonymous
Jul 07, 2013 @ 07:14:40
You clearly have never studied any biology. Yes, many bacteria live exclusively in the presence of oxygen, they’re caller aerobic bacteria. Only anaerobic bacteria die in the presence of oxygen.
Pammy
Jul 20, 2013 @ 14:01:42
Well said. 🙂
Anonymous
Apr 23, 2014 @ 11:57:51
it says on wikipedia Phenacetin has been banned for ingestion as it’s been shown to cause kidney failure and cancer, it’s mega bad!
and also says do not ingest on those dodgy brown bottles.
get food grade. not pharma poison. thats what they specialise in.
Anonymous
Jun 25, 2013 @ 13:31:33
How much area the big pharmas paying you for this article? Or maybe you’re getting a kick back from the FDA? You don’t scare me, or anyone else that has researched 35% hydrogen peroxide.
Great Ape Thoughts
Jun 26, 2013 @ 01:05:13
Trust me, if I was working for a pharmaceutical industry or the FDA, I would have written a very different article and wouldn’t be writing this on a crappy laptop because my nice desktop broke down. My opinions and scientific knowledge cannot be bought.
Also, I wasn’t trying to scare anyone. If you think that this post was designed to scare people, that’s all on you.
Anonymous
Sep 22, 2013 @ 13:50:25
No. You are on payroll. You are definitely getting kickback for this load of BS. Nice try attempting to deceive GOD’s children. I wonder what type of punishment he has in store for you. The TRUTH will be known and ALL will reap what they sow!
Jade
Jun 25, 2013 @ 17:52:52
There is a difference between normal and food grade. The recommended plan is supposed to be food grade hydrogen peroxide 35%…I’m pretty sure your images are from house hold hydrogen peroxide…
Great Ape Thoughts
Jun 26, 2013 @ 01:10:55
As I have said before, only one picture is of 3% pharmacy grade. The other is from a high grade batch. Also, one of the links I posted talks about a man who consumed 35% food grade H2O2. I know the difference between the two. But some of the people I talked to or read about do not make or ignore any distinctions so I wanted to show as many sides of the argument as I could without making the post only about classifications of the substance.
Pete
Jul 03, 2013 @ 17:25:37
This why we take H2o2 on an empty stomach.
Always dilute your 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide in distilled water. Tap or mineral water contains dissolved minerals that will react with the extra oxygen, wasting it.
Never take hydrogen peroxide with food in your stomach. For most people this means an hour and a half either side of food. However if you feel a little nauseous after taking the H2O2 it could be because you haven’t left it long enough. Vitamin C, iron and fats in the stomach change hydrogen peroxide into super-oxide free radicals . This can severely damage the lining of your stomach . The same is true of iron, copper, silver or manganese so if you are supplementing these minerals DO NOT TAKE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE INTERNALLY.
Elizabeth
Jul 03, 2013 @ 20:17:29
Dear Ape, I think you did not proof your point at all. All data you presented is not relevant. Are you actually a scientist; if yes, could you find a better scientific explanation and tell people exactly what is going on inside the body after drinking highly diluted 35% hp and actually why it may cause such a great harm. Good luck looking for results!
Joanna
Jul 05, 2013 @ 13:16:34
Sorry but I believe in Hydrogen peroxide therapy. There IS A FOOD GRADE HP. I cured my psoriasis with HP and definitely believe in its curing abilities. More people should know about. It’s only doctors and pharma that will go out of business.
Skitz
Oct 19, 2013 @ 09:43:03
Spot on. No money in curing people.
Pete
Jul 08, 2013 @ 04:49:17
Ape.. you stated “….but until we know more about these issues, the public should avoid treatments that are currently known to do more harm than good.”
How can you possible state that? You are fear mongering. Stop it. You offer no substantial evidence either way. Yay or Nay, on therapeutic uses of H2o2. It would be so nice for you to offer caution. It would be so nice for you to acknowledge possible benefit. But you err by complete disdain and worse no faction of …”SEE”. You continue to babble, makes for very easy repartee.
Kas
Jul 13, 2013 @ 01:18:25
The big pharmaceutical companies poison our bodies everyday pushing more and more drugs on to us. They are not interested in really healing us they are only interested in the billions of dollars they make. That is why they are against alternate therapies, and spread rumours around that alternate therapies are rubbish. If people were serious about getting people well they would be looking at the cause of the disease not only the cure. What is worst with a cancer patient pumping your body with Chemo or trying alternate hydrogen peroxide. I have seen too many friends go through chemo fighting cancer and not make it.
Pammy
Jul 20, 2013 @ 13:24:00
You obviously put too much faith I’m medical doctors who only put band aides on problems IF they can even figure out what is wrong in the first place. You also must not have a chronic condition that you wonderful MD’s can’t even figure out what is causing it.
I’m done with them. I witry anything BECAUSE I will die regardless..
Good day.
anon
Jul 23, 2013 @ 08:48:16
as far as i know, and correct me if im wrong but the body already has or produces hydrogen peroxide, so why we not all dying already…….here is a thought……No one would consider it dangerous to take one aspirin, in fact it can save the life of someone who is having a heart attack.
Would it be considered dangerous to take 700 aspirins? Of course it would, it would kill you!!
FDA are these the same ppl who still allow cigarettes, etc to be sold when they down right now that they KILL people
a friend of mine has been taking a diluted concentration for 20 years has not been to doctor the last 17 years………..oh did i mention his over 85 years old
with saying this im not condoning it……….just stating the fact….
PjM
Jul 28, 2013 @ 10:34:26
Well I think we’ve cleared that up. Ape must work for Big Pharma. We’ve taken small amounts of hydrogen peroxide over the last 3 years (i.e. – occasionally adding 3 to 4 drops in a glass of water.) We have never felt better, breathed better, or had so much energy. We feel entirely rejuvenated w/this simple protocol. History lesson: Food grade H.P. occurred naturally in rain water until the air became overly saturated with various pollutants, thereby wiping out H.P.’s beneficial effects prior to it being able to fall in either our soil or water. That is why we are deficient in this all important element. Big Pharma can’t make money from it – so are in the business of fear-mongering – much like the Cancer Industry does, since keeping people sick with cancer is a massive money maker. There will never be a proclaimed cure for cancer by either Big Pharma or the Medical Association for that very lucrative reason. The entire industry is a sham, and controlled by corporations. Shame on them.
kelly
Aug 26, 2013 @ 22:56:15
I totally agree. shameless.
kelly
Aug 26, 2013 @ 23:08:34
I am not referring to the ape guy when I said shameless. I have no clue why he wrote this article. Maybe he’s working for the Big Pharm…. maybe not. Maybe he believes what he has written here. All I do know is I have not shown any negative side effects from drinking it every day for over 20 yrs. AT ALL.
knowledge el
Jul 31, 2013 @ 10:10:37
I see again someone try to convince h202 is not a good product .
Great Ape Thoughts
Aug 02, 2013 @ 21:51:19
would you care to explain why you believe that it is a good product to consume?
Allan
Oct 07, 2013 @ 08:09:06
May I answer this one? .. please refer to this link for FACTS
http://www.foodgrade-hydrogenperoxide.com/id31.html
Marc
Oct 08, 2013 @ 07:16:24
Would you care to explain why you keep ignoring why the majority of the responses on this site are in favor of food grade H202. It has been explained over and over and over again to you, but you refuse to listen! These people have nothing to gain but better health! I thought science was repeating the same experiment over and over again and analyzing the results! I am no Dr, but I can tell you that I am sick and tired of being sick and tired and from years of of listening to the scientific community that doesn’t produce allot of real results! Thus putting people like me in positions of having to try something different! To my betterment or to my detriment! So far in my research I have come across way more stories that ingesting H202 has greater benefits that not! Now I could be wrong and only time will tell. Will you believe me if I come back and share with you of the positive results?! Or will I be just another kook? I have nothing to gain by promoting the use of H202 but my health and a better life with my three young children.So tell me ape! Is the earth flat or round?!
bluetexan
Aug 08, 2013 @ 15:32:11
dna ‘flips’ because it is trying to survive in an acid environment. an oxigenated environment is the key to continued cell health.
Andrew
Aug 14, 2013 @ 16:17:36
I have been getting a headache reading all these comments. No, ape is not working for any companies. Just because he has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean he’s automatically out to harm anyone. Both sides of this argument have everyone’s best interest at heart. Yes, there are probably large scale conspiracies with drug companies protecting their interests, but the answer isn’t dividing ourselves. Our answer is objective debate and unbiased studies using the modern scientific method; where we look at both sides equally and understand that as humans we are prone to cognitive dissonance and conformation bias. I would love to see some REAL studies on the effects of food grade hydrogen peroxide taken internally with the recommended dose. So far, I haven’t seen any credible studies supporting either side of the argument.
David Donaldson
Oct 04, 2013 @ 04:11:30
I have witnessed several cases that involved cancerous tumors that vanished, my father as one. That’s enough for me. You wont see any studys because the cancer doctors would be unemployed PERIOD… Open your eyes and don’t trust those liar doctors. They are just like those sorry as liars, lawyers. You get it.
Anonymous
Nov 02, 2013 @ 12:47:32
I would love to see more studies as well. But unfortunatly no will fund such studies as there is no money to bbe made from them.
barry
Mar 02, 2014 @ 14:22:35
Sir you seem inteligent so why not let your fingers do the walking. All the proof you need is at your finger tips. Just type in what you want to know. I am not going to do it for you. I have proven this like other responders here have if you don’t believe then look it up.
kelly
Aug 26, 2013 @ 22:53:43
I learned of h2o2 over 20 years ago. The husband of a friend of mine was in the last stages of cancer, bedridden. A very popular celebrity heard of her husbands situation and went to him and told him about h2o2 therapy. Her husband started it since the doctors said there was nothing they could do.
I lost track of that friend over the years but her husband was cancer free, working and loving life, last time I saw him.
I, myself have been ingesting 35 grade hydrogen peroxide ever since. 8 drops in 16 oz of distilled water, 3x’s a day. Over 20 years. 100% healthy. I am living proof that this article is pure BS.
Anonymous
Aug 29, 2013 @ 21:50:41
So it is better for someone to do RADATION AND KEMO, than to take 35
% Hydrogen peroxide! You are NUTS!! YOU HAVE NEVER HAD CANCER BEFORE!
Anonymous
Sep 02, 2013 @ 14:13:33
I would just like to remind everyone of our so called leaders Ponzi scheme with our social security on how they have taken and spent it for how many years knowing full well that they would never be able to pay it back. So if our so called leaders are going to rob our wallets with what should be our money when the times comes, how much more are they going to try and keep any info that really works into healthy living covered up.
Love The Life You Live
Sep 10, 2013 @ 16:38:33
My goodness… what a dramatic blog…
Bottom line is, I believe in this Food Grade HP therapy.
I personally have been sick for nearly 4 years now and have foolishly entrusted my health to 11 different medical doctors during that time, where my health proved only to increasingly worsen as time went on. My experience has proven first hand, that most doctors are not interested in uncovering the source of one’s ailment, but rather very motivated to prescribe pharmaceutical drugs designed only to suppress symptoms, not cure the underlying issue, which let’s face it, is the MAIN reason why the body creates “symptoms” in the first place! …To alert you to an underlying problem that needs to be realized and resolved, NOT masked.
I was recently reminded of my ex-neighbor, Art, who looked like he was in his 60’s was in fact in his 90’s. He explained to me one day that he been ingesting 35% Food Grade HP for most of his life and was very much alive and well at 92 years of age; full of life, in incredible physical shape, mentally clear, with ample energy and infectious enthusiasm.
I can tell you from personal experience that in the 6+ years I knew him, he had not been sick a single day. He built homes for people in Big Bear with his bare hands and collected natural accent materials (rock and stones) from the land, each night after he stopped working on his home projects every day.
Art was amazing in every sense of the word… he scaled fences like a teenager!
Our cat had been stuck in a tree for 2 days, when we saw Art, he asked what was going on, then without any hesitation, climbed onto our roof, and proceeded to create a make shift pulley with a bucket and some rope, he rescued our cat, gave me a hug and then headed off to continue his original task.
Desperate to find relief, I continued my search and have finally located a doctor who practices alternative medicine. I am pleased to report that in just 6-weeks, he has done what all the others have failed to do, which is have me tested to uncover the root cause of my illness and provide a solution that is based on HEALING the body, not merely treating the symptoms of discomfort.
I’m confident all the “nay-sayers” of HP therapy would agree, in the 4 years of general medical “attention” I received, I demonstrated sufficient patience to have allowed any potential benefit from said treatments to have improved my health crisis, which they did not. And that after discontinuing said treatments for six months, before I located a doctor who practiced alternative medicines, that adequate time lapsed, where one could not mistake the recent improvement in my health to have been a “delayed reaction” from previous medical treatments.
We moved back to the city, a few years ago, so I lost contact with Art, or I might have been more mindful of this HP therapy and perhaps I would have corrected or even prevented my health issues… All I know is I am grateful to have discovered it!
Obviously, anyone considering this therapy, should be sure to research the company supplying the 35% Food Grade HP to ensure efficacy, as well as being extremely cautious to clearly mark any container with the HP content, so as to prevent the risk of accidental over-dose.
I am also a believer that the AMA, Big Pharma and the FDA are all working together to ensure they do not lose their hearty trillion dollar profits to anyone providing permanent cures to any disease.
Marc
Nov 02, 2013 @ 14:51:25
I am a 53 year old truck driver who also have been degenerating and getting worst as the years go by. To the point where I have found myself to weigh 300 Lbs with swollen legs and poor circulation to the point of not being able to walk up a half a flight of stairs without having to gasp for air. My feet felt like they were on fire and numb most of the time. The Doctor placed me on diuretics of witch I was on for over three months to help remove some of the fluid that had built up in my legs to no avail. I also have been diagnosed with arthritis in my mid upper back that caused me allot of discomfort and nagging pain that went through my entire body that I found myself having to take up to two Alieve and 2 to 3 Tramasets and a half hour long hot shower on my knees just to function in the morning. This constant pain in my back and legs is what helped cause my being over weight as exercise was not something that I wanted to do! I also had stomach issues that left me feeling like someone punched me in the abdomen all the time when ever I exerted myself witch also caused my shortness of breath witch in turn didn’t help me with my wanting to exercise which also lead to my lack of exercise and my being over weight. In short, all of these issues played a significant roll in two marriage brake ups and to the eventual loss of my long term job. Now I have spent over two decades with these issues for which I have sought medical help, and all to no avail! I have gone for M.R.I. ‘s C.T. scans, bone scans, ultra sound, countless blood tests just to name a few, and all for not! So as the old saying go’s. Desperate people do desperate things! One day a friend who has been using H202 for years told me about this controversial use of H202 by ingesting it and of all the claims that followed it. So having tried everything else I began researching and reading personal testimonies and their claims to healing then decided try it. On the first week I started finding myself having more energy. On the second week I found that I not only had more energy, I also found that my back leg pain was not as prominent. So I thought I would stop taking my Alieve and trameset to see if the pain would increase, and to my surprise it did not. So I completely stopped taking it ,only to report that I am now going on my third week of H202 therapy without pain killers for my arthritis! Also due to fear of what being on diuretics for my fluid retention would have if I mixed it with the H202 I stopped taking this as well but this time I stopped before I began taking H202 only to report that the swelling in my legs has significantly gone down and the burning sensation in my feet has greatly diminished and the cramps and pain that I had in my legs is all but gone! Also I have found that my stomach issues seem to have gone away to the point that I was also able to walk up two flights of stairs without having to stop to catch my breath half way up and at the top. ! I have also found that my apatite has greatly diminished #1 due to the fact that one must not eat 2 to 3 hours before and after the ingestion of H202 but also it seems that I find my self not as hungry. To which I am reporting that my size 46 jeans aren’t as tight tight on me! So. In conclusion, I am now starting on my third week of H202 feeling quite optimistic and encouraged that there is hope after all! Yesterday I went out tricker treating with my two young boys and I found my self walking around five or six blocks or so without having to stop due to pain and shortness of breath! So for you skeptics out there, till you’ve walked a mile in someones desperate shoes, don’t knock it! Now this having been said I don’t know what side effects that I may encounter in the future due to ingesting H202. But for now, I am reporting that My life has taken a significant change for the better and I am going to continue on my 30 day regiment of H202! I will report again after I have concluded. Sincerely: A believer in H202
nuffzed
Sep 23, 2013 @ 04:58:13
@greatapethoughts…Please spend more time reading ‘Game of Thrones’ than writing this ego massaging blog.
You obviously have an articulate brain so that it must be clear to you that you are NOT winning this argument.
Please don’t let yourself be put into the same bracket as Snopes and Quackwatch.
People are waking up to the Allopathic domination of our health and are tired of it.
For goodness sake, use your valuable time in researching something useful…
NB: 35% Food Grade H2o2 diluted 1 part 35% to 11 parts distilled water is a wonderful gargle and mouth-wash which destroys all the bacteria that produces bad breath. Ideal for people that spend lots of time behind their computers and not out in the fresh air.
Nuffzed.
Linda
Sep 25, 2013 @ 15:03:07
DO YOU WANT PROOF ? I have come along this Ape page…. I am also proud of these ppl here, who I do not know, writing seriously to a person that disgraces the True Great Apes! ….Proof? I have poof as of last night with my 18 yrold cat who had a boody diarear stool for months, the sonogram read tumors in lower abdominal area and liver. My vet at the ny humane society said, this is very bad, humanely the best to do for her is to ” put her to sleep”. I am a fighter and so is my cat. I had nothing to lose since she was declining every day with no appetite , no energy, and water of blood coming out of her. I put my 3% of 35% human grade Hydrogen Peroxiod in her water dishes and indoor pet fountains , gave appox. her 2xs a day from an eye dropper a diluted solution I configured keeping in mind she is cat and dying, also after 18 yrs, I bought her outside for the first time, in friend’s backyards to smell the life outdoors.she blossomed into a reborn kitten!!!!!!!
As I said last night she is eating healthy cat food herself , previously I had to force feed her baby food.
The BIG proof is she went to the litter box, spritely and pooped a turd that was solid and NO Blood!!!!!!!….She is still coming along. But she was on her death bed with what was more likely to be cancerous tumors! At 18 yrs. old, to do an exploritory operation would have killed her.
I am truly in shock that my cat has come back from the almost dead.
I was thinking another ultra sound now would be proof!
I can not offord spending another $400. For this. I ‘m in New York city.
And struggle since my back problems…. Another story unrelated.
I just googled cures with HPT. And came across this post.
Sorry for peaking harshly in the beginning, but my feelings are that if you yourself have no proof yourself , do not condemn what can be !
And my cat is living a better life since HPT given she has come back from her death bed and now is progressing,. And lifestyle change was getting her outside, this too made her a reborn again kitty.
Thanks for this oppornuty to give voice to what is not talked about in main stream media!
David Donaldson
Oct 04, 2013 @ 04:05:16
You are so right. My hats off to you. Yes it works!!!!
Vince
Jan 05, 2014 @ 05:47:15
Praise God! I knew hydrogen peroxide is true and it works! Thousands of incurable people are healed in Russia with hydrogen peroxide following the treatment of Professor Neumivakin who is promoter of this method.
David Donaldson
Oct 04, 2013 @ 04:02:11
i know personally people who had prostate cancer and my father had a melo blastoma tumor that did the hydrogen peroxide therapy that made there tumors vanish. TRUE FACT NO BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!! The doctors were astonished and completely baffled. I promise you the idiots who are saying Don’t do it are doctors because the want your money. Cancer is a big business. They don’t make any money if you do the hydrogen peroxide route. Also, Eseac tea also helps rid the cancer. Doctors are not the answer. They are just like liars, no, I mean lawyers. You understand. Don’t take my word for it, do some research. There are hundreds of ways to skin a cat.
Anonymous
Oct 11, 2013 @ 22:00:39
The Great Ape is running scared.. he knows the TRUTH will come out.
C’mon Ape man do the right thing.
Christ Child
Oct 12, 2013 @ 08:31:34
This “great ape” is a TOOL!. But his/her schooling will never get him/her there. I call ALL “apes” INFO, INTELLECTUALY MORONIC! Its all based off “consumed” knowledge and not GODs FACTS OF TRUTH. ALL DISEASE HAS ALREADY BEEN CURED! I REPEAT, ALL DISEASES ALREADY HAVE BEEN CURED, AND THERE IS A CURE FOR EVERY DISEASE HUMANS WILL EVER HAVE! The ONLY REASON you will NEVER see IT/THEM is because the evil powers that be want you to DIE! IT IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL! PERIOD! OVER POPULATION CONTROL, GREED, AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE STAY WORKING! Ignorance is your death sentence, and this world is controlled by keeping education at the most ignorant state ever conceived by man! YOU THINK YOUR SMART WITH ALL YOUR HUMAN KNOWLEGE AND SCHOOLING! And yet your eyes have never seen, yet, the unseen ALL AROUND YOU. ONE DAY MAYBE, IF YOU OPEN YOUR BRAIN UP TO UNWORLDLY THINKING, A REAL LIGHT WILL PENETRATE YOUR MIND AND ALL THINGS WILL BE MADE VISIBLE! Then you will no longer spout off your educated ignorance, but will be able to speak with REAL KNOWLEGE KNOWING WITHOUT ANY DOUBT WHAT IS REAL TRUTH, AND NOT JUST THE BLABBERINGS OF A MIND THAT GATHERS THE THOUGHTS OF MEN AND CONTROLLED FALSE, INFORMATION THAT IS nothing but REGURGITATED LIES!
Marc
Oct 15, 2013 @ 12:28:52
Well said!
Kurt
Oct 28, 2013 @ 19:19:21
I really couldn’t have said it better being an awakened individual myself. I learned to follow the money and stay away from those companies (i.e big pharma, fda, major brand names, etc…).
Go to the little guy who has been slap by the government a few dozen times for actually achieving great results. That’s where your treatment is.
So I do the exact OPPOSITE of what the big government regulated companies tell me to do.
I despise most of the big food brands like (Purdue, Kellogg’s, Banquet, etc…)
Id rather eat organic, whole, grass fed, non gmo.
Oh and Hydrogen peroxide therapy is amazing. I do 7 drops of 35% in a gallon of water. When I drink it I feel awake. alive and vital. Caffeine has never made feel this energized!
A am starting to experience the detoxing effects, not fun lol.
I have a feeling this “ape” guy will have something to say about that…
Ape guy: “maybe its the peroxide causing the problems!”
Me: No… sry its, from detox.
Many of those who do water fasts for 30 days experience similar side effects, because they are excreting all of the accumulated toxins through their urine, skin, colon and saliva.
Not to mention I got most of my information from trusted “health practitioners” and alternative doctors who treat the root cause of illness NOT their symptoms.
I’ll continue with my H202 therapy, thanks! 🙂
Vince
Jan 05, 2014 @ 05:50:20
Well done Kurt! We all side with you. State medicine freaks can’t lie to people any more, truths coming out!
Vince
Jan 05, 2014 @ 05:48:32
Totally true David! hydrogen peroxide IS the answer to many incurable diseases. Down with rotten state medicine and its promoters!
Chris Harper
Oct 17, 2013 @ 13:43:14
To Great Ape,
I would like to first thank you for this blog and your willingness to keep it going even though you find it difficult to defend your position. I have read the entire thing and have learned a lot. So I would like to thank you for that.
However, I would like to ask you think about your borrowed quote “the plural of anecdote is not data”. While this appears to be valid on the surface, I started thinking about it further. There is another quote that comes to mind, “where there is smoke there is fire.” When you have this many people that have had positive results with their own experiences, you have to consider the possibility that they are onto something.
And here is another thought along those lines. Let’s assume that we put together a “study” or a scientific research experiment with 1000 people who use diluted food grade HP at the recommended levels for oral ingestion for a month. And let’s assume that 5 groups of 200 each all have different ailments that we are studying. In our study, how would we log the results? Would we not interview them and get their story? Would we not ask them about their eating habits and how HP ingestion made them feel? And wouldn’t we log those results that would become data points? Of course we would.
My point is that, while this forum is not a formal study, that informal anecdotes can be points of data that should at least be considered to motivate one in performing a formal study. The anecdotes from that study most assuredly would be considered data.
I believe that your willingness to consider the possibility that you may have initially been wrong in your stance would go a long way in providing balance in your discussion. I am still undecided in this debate and would love to see a more comprehensive study done. I am still searching for the answer and have not closed my mind to either side yet.
However, as it stands, many many people have given us examples from their own experience that are the highest form of proof for them. No, it is not formal science, but it is worthy or our consideration, because to borrow another great quote, “the proof is in the pudding”.
Chris
Great Ape Thoughts
Oct 29, 2013 @ 02:01:59
Thank you for reading, and sorry I haven’t been on in a while. I have a lot on my plate right now with work and family issues.
Now when it comes to the study you are proposing, It would be interesting to do since there is enough information to make a basic observation, which is the first part of the scientific process. We are observing that there are a number of individuals who are reporting benefits from this therapy. The next thing we would have to do is form a hypothesis that we could test. It seems like a good one for our population here is that Hydrogen Peroxide therapy can work as a powerful anti-viral in the right dose; I say this because there are a number of comments that are reporting having viral infections cured. We would then take a large population of people who are suffering from a viral infection and get as much data about them as we can. This data would include other medications being taken, diet, age, sex, smoking and drinking habits, stuff like that so the experimenters can account for any other causes of data change. It would not be a good idea to take groups of people with many different ailments since it would overwhelm the study and ruin the results. We would also need to have a placebo and/or control group. This is done to test if the treatment is actually helping people, or if they are becoming biased and miss-reporting symptoms that they think are not there anymore. If the results are greater than the control/placebo group, then it is very likely that the data is accurate and not the result of any biases on the part of the testers or subjects.
To log the data, there would be many factors. One of them would be patient testimony, but others would be blood tests, MRI’s, culture swabs of infected areas, and many other tests. This is again to guarantee that the study is not thrown off by something like conformation bias.
In fact, conformation bias is one of the key reasons that anecdotes are not taken as data. Often times, when people believe in something, they will only pay attention to things that support their belief while ignoring or explaining away the things that contradict it. It’s something that nearly everyone does in their lives, myself included. I’ll give you a hypothetical. Let’s say that a person read somewhere that drinking hose water would prevent headaches. They start drinking hose water and don’t have any headaches for a week. They then believe that the water is working. The next time that they get a headache, they may write it off as a fluke and forget about having it the next day. At the end of the month, if you asked them about their headaches, they would say that they didn’t have any during the month even though they really did. This is why the plural of anecdote isn’t data.
Anonymous
Nov 02, 2013 @ 22:24:30
Great Ape you are a LIAR, and a FOOL.. You know it and everyone else knows it. A ‘FULL of SHIT’ stamp on your forehead would be appropriate.
Why are you hiding the facts? You only post information not contradicting your view on this subject. You should post ALL relevant material. You are no good, a rotten person..
Vince
Jan 05, 2014 @ 05:52:52
I agree with you, this Ape man is working on his government illuminaty death program to make more people sick. That’s why they are shitting in their pants when people expose them and finding out what is really curative, instead of their facist medicine institutions.
Anonymous
Oct 17, 2013 @ 22:34:42
Great Ape is a shrill, paid government jockey. Do not waste your time arguing with him, do your research. Be your own doctor
God bless all
Anonymous
Nov 04, 2013 @ 05:59:25
to begin I recommend starting here..
http://www.foodgrade-hydrogenperoxide.com/id31.html
Junior Russell
Oct 19, 2013 @ 08:37:00
Clearly Mr Great Ape was hired by our government to scare people, I’ve been drinking 3% food grade h202 and I have never felt better ! Fuck your scientific studies ! The AMA controls all of that! If you have never tried H202 therapy then don’t fucking talk like you know about it ! Take it from someone who actually uses this natural occurring substance everyday ! Fuck your pharmaceducile companies, they’re the ones who will kill you with their drugs ! Not H202… H202 is part of our natural immune system! If your reading this article it was designed to turn you away from h202, please ignore it and try it, for it can save your life !
Barbara
Oct 24, 2013 @ 22:03:20
Praise God! Well said, ” Christ Child”! I’m with ya!!!!
Roger
Oct 26, 2013 @ 05:05:06
I am a scientist and an independent researcher. My interest is in cancer mechanisms and aging. One day my former partner gave me Herpes 2. The disease started with 8 blisters. Nothing for 9 months and following the second OB the new OBs occurred just twice-trice/ year. In that period I increased my Catalase and SOD levels to reduce oxidation damages at cellular level. This eventually shortened the time between OBs to three weeks. A real hell. 8 blisters every three weeks. I deduced that the virus can exploit catalase and SOD to thrive inside the cells and escape oxidation. Anti-oxidants maintain healthy cells longevity. However, if cells are infected by Herpes 2 they are allegedly virus amplifiers! Reluctantly, I started the standard peroxide oral treatment because there was nothing left to try. After three weeks, a microscopic OB replaced the usual 8 big blisters. For the first time in three years I had just a small reddish spot with two almost invisible blisters. My simplified conclusion; we have a balance between catalase, SOD and H2O2 levels. Unbalances have different side effects, included aging, cancer and viral infection. increasing the concentration of peroxide in the blood stream is certainly effective to reduce the OBs of Herpes. This is my evidence and in couple of months I will know if peroxide zaps the virus definitely. Concerning the evidence that peroxide will cause me health damage such as DNA damage I cannot know this unless studying in vitro what happens to my DNA at the very low dosage I am taking orally. However, if someone reads what antivirals and many other drugs do, they will see that there is no safe drug so someone must do their own math. My math is that I stay on peroxide because it almost immediately worked very well with me as no anti-viral drug did.
edward
Oct 26, 2013 @ 16:56:58
I really don’t have a skin in this game as I haven’t tried this type of therapy because basically I am perfectly healthy but I am curious about the amount of anger directed at APE. His basic argument is to caution people because this type of therapy has not been peer reviewed. The vast majority of the responses seem to be- I don’t trust the fda or it is a big pharma conspiracy. Some even believe that cancer vaccines are not available because it would eat into profits. These conspiracy theories don’t hold a whole lot of water in my opinion if you have any knowledge of biotech investing. First, if you believe that big pharma would intentionally not release a vaccine they would have a shareholder revolt. Look at the margins for the HPV vaccines, or Immunocellular’s vaccine for glioblastoma, or Sangamo with a functional cure for HIV and Huntingtons disease, etc., These companies are spending billions in phase 1-3 trials to get vaccines/cures because if they don’t someone else will beat them to the punch. And if you look at the exponential rate at which molecules are being discovered mainly in silico(reducing traditional research expense) these companies have no choice but to act fast and lock up the patent rights. Another thing that baffles me is that most of you don’t realize that big pharma works hand in hand with most major universities. So now not only are you claiming big pharma is in on the conspiracy virtually every major university with research facilities is too. Lets not forget that the NIH gets 4.9 billion a year from Congress for cancer research. Do you think that the US government is suppressing cures? Why? Medicare and Medicaid expenses are killing this country. ANY cure or vaccine saves uncle sam a ton of money.
And lastly, why would any oncologist tell another human being don’t try hydrogen peroxide therapy(if it is perfectly safe in the right dose). Most doctors I know went into medicine because they want to help people and end suffering. They use the products that have been peer reviewed through FDA testing because it gives the patient the best chance at survival. And yes the FDA does have some drugs that have side effects that manifest themselves later on but for the most part the trials are conducted all over the world with large population samples. In my opinion, I would rather trust trials conducted all over the world with thousands of people and a control group then stories about someone’s uncle jim or their sick cat. Not trying to be insulting, I just cannot fathom that every oncologist is suppressing or not supporting this therapy if there is anything to it. They dedicate their lives to helping people so why would they suddenly be so cruel to deny someone a healthy life for “pennies a day”.
Anonymous
Nov 01, 2013 @ 00:53:23
Fool
Skitz
Nov 01, 2013 @ 08:27:20
Right on….
Joe Laberge
Nov 07, 2013 @ 20:27:48
Had extreme bowel discomfort for more than 2 years. Tested for many things. No relief until I drank 8oz. of water laced with 30 drops of 17% peroxide for 3 days in a row. Problem gone. That was 3 years ago.
Tosha
Nov 13, 2013 @ 01:16:34
Now this is ridiculous.. If hydrogen peri oxide could kill people I HIGHLY DOUBT our bodies would create it itself.& that they woul put it in our food..& what about the rain!? Hydrogen peroxide is in that too!!! All lies. Do your research before you start to knock things that could actually benefit you.
peewee
Nov 17, 2013 @ 07:52:51
your ignorance on the subject is encyclopedic, obviously brainwashed by Big Pharma. And if Great Ape Thoughts means you believe we ascended from monkeys then here in lies the root of the problem..Evolution is just a fairy tale for grown ups.. The truth will set you free, that is the truth not your truth. Its also quite interesting that the good book (The Bible ) also says that it’s “the love of money that is the root of all forms of evil ” Its quite clear that we’re to love people and use money don’t ever get this reversed where you love money and use people. This is evil and this is where the paharmaceutical companies go wrong. Interesting the word behind pharmaceutical is the greek word Pharmacia which means witchcraft and sorcery. I have over the years cured almost everything naturally and not used any form of drug not even a pain killer for 30 years now, and will die before i put their poison into my body..Ive removed skin cancers in under 2 weeks naturally, and have stories that i could go on about for ages. Suffice is to say drugs are about money not health, and the sad part is they all have side effects and prescribed drugs kill more people in the west every year than the Vietnam war did in 10 years.There is a God fortunately and we will all be judged one day, wether you believe it or not wont stop you being accountable to him one day. And where you’ve put the love of money before the love of people, look out. You have a conscience and thats your spirit letting your know your out of line. Its a pity that ignorance isn’t painful. And as far as the information not being peer reviewed as posted by others, it has and many,many other natural cures for disease not just therapys. The problem is if the big boys can’t patent it and make money out of it then they will discredit it even to the point of lieing and fabricating evidence against it. This is out and out EVIL.
Sandy Workman
Dec 05, 2013 @ 16:41:20
I have to tell everyone who reads this–I am lung CANCER free–going on 9yrs now–with out any pills, or Dr’s. Plus I haven’t been sick–not even the flue, no poison is gonna go in this body. I used chelation to clean my blood. Then I used H2O2 for fixing it. No, you don’t drink pure H2O2 of any type. You got to add water to it. !0 drops (35% Food Grade) to 8 oz of water–I did it more then 3 times a day–I did it before bed–that way it was in my body all night. Then I did it again first thing in the morning. If it up sets your belly–just drink more water(with out H2O2). I am a coffee drinker–so if I wanted another cup–I had to drink my water first–wait 15 to 20 mints, then I had my coffee. So I might drink 6 to 10 glasses of H2O2 a day. I believes it depends on how sick you are, or how fast you want to see results. Everyday I saw results–I kept notes. I believe this ad is to scare you from using H2O2. If a pill has a 2-3 page side affect warning–then don’t take it==find something else–I’m sure ur Dr can give you something safer. I had circulation problems–retaining water , not being able to sweat–cold 24/7, all year long. I did Chelation, and this fixed my problem. I was able to sweat, lost weight -which was all water. Plus I had so much energy. But the H2O2 did the trick–I had even more energy, because I had more oxygen in my blood, brain, muscles. I know this is the cure all everyone is looking for–Just write down everything that is wrong with you–and for 1 wk–do the H2O2 and check your list–if you see an improvement of any kind–then you know it’s working. Don’ let anyone run your life–you just might die. Trust yourself to do the right thing.
Simeon
Dec 21, 2013 @ 02:30:47
Yes. As has been already indicated above, APE is simply trying to scare people. Maybe he is somehow connected with the FDA and as their puppet, trying to scare people so that the trillion dollar Pharmaceutical Industry can keep making profits galore. If more people begin to use h2o2 and benefiting healthwise, then it means less profit for the Pharmaceuticals, since people will be buying less drugs. So disregard APE. Use 35% Food Grade h2o2 with the distilled water, but ensure that you do it at the safely recommended dosage in order to benefit.
Jerry
Dec 12, 2013 @ 19:58:38
I looked at the studies you listed. They are all about ingesting food grade 35% hydrogen peroxide. No wonder you said “don’t do it.” However, that is not what hydrogen peroxide therapy is. Hydrogen peroxide therapy is about generously diluting small amounts of food grade peroxide for ingesting. To me your post is how bad meaning people scare people from doing something that will help them tremendously.
Hilton
Dec 26, 2013 @ 23:42:49
It seems that the only sites that are hyping (H2O2), Hydrogen Peroxide as “miracle cure which has been hidden by the establishment” are those who are selling other dubious “health” advice and their own miracle pills and tonics. If H2O2 breaks down into by products, one of which is a free radical ,as general chemistry suggests. And free radicals have been closely linked to aging and cell damage as had been reported for decades. Then right off the bat, H2o2 seems to be the opposite of the fountain of youth ( and health.)
But Wait there is more….Some propose that drinking H2O2 boosts one’s energy by supplying extra oxygen (through the gut membrane, no less or directly injected into the blood stream)…but fail to mention that free oxygen introduces to the blood stream by any other means than by the action of one’s lungs and safely transported throughout the body by hemoglobin can cause damage to platelets, or air bubbles in the blood that result in blood clots , and death of organs or the whole person if not successfully treated. I remind myself that medical staff go to a lot of trouble to take the air bubble out of the needle before injecting the needle’s contents into my blood. These same questionable health gurus suggest that cancer can be cured by the oxygen supplied by H2O2 but ignore that rapid growth of cancer cells require much more oxygen than normal cells, so supplying abundant oxygen to tumors via injecting or ingesting H2O2 is counter productive even if thrombosis/ blood clots didn’t kill the patient in the first place.
To add to the list of backward logic,…one is NOT suppose to use the drugstore shelf 3% Hydrogen Peroxide “because of impurities”. ( 3% H2O2 is now known to cause scaring and damage healthy cells in shallow surface wounds). These “gurus” advocate instead that the average person (who can’t understand the danger of blood clots, free radicals or that cancer cells thrive on oxygen ) should run out and get 35% Food Grade H2O2. Somehow the average person is to feel safer with a bottle of H2O2 that is 10+xs more scaring and killing to healthy human cells and keep this stuff in their home next to their children and pets. The reasoning is that it is FOOD GRADE. Little known to the average person is that Food Grade H2O2 is used to clean industrial food equipment and used in complex chemical reactions which require skilled technicians to monitor before the products can be judged safe for public consumption. Now just because Hilda’s Health Shop advocates the wonders of drinking H2O2 doesn’t make me want to run out and do it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-prescription-for-death/
http://www.snopes.com/medical/homecure/peroxide.asp#SD77UBGghB293VmI.99
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hydrogen-peroxide.htm#.UrxHRLCA1om
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400760/Hydrogen-Peroxide-for-Good-Health.html
http://www.bobbyshealthyshop.co.uk/Hydrogen-Peroxide-Internal-Use.php
ben
Dec 18, 2013 @ 00:32:01
its better than chemicals in medicine. oxygen kills germs….hello….you know it works…just want medicine out there…….well, I been doing it years…haven’t een sicks in years…and im sure not dead
Sonny Jim
Dec 18, 2013 @ 15:48:30
I have read this ‘article’!!
I had asthma for 5 years and was fed up of steroid inhalers.
So i did a lot of reading up on this.
So to cut to the chase. I went to the web site http://www.foodgradehydrogenperoxide.com
The rest for me is history. I followed the protocol to the letter!!!
After just 3 days I threw my inhalers away and that was five years ago!!!!!!
So there you are. H2O2 is in my medicine cabinet. The best bit is that there is no other medicines in the cabinet!
When it comes down to it, life is really up to you!
I’ve always been proactive about my health.
Just to say that yes, H2O2 is a very powerful oxidiser.
Like everything else all in the dose!
A whole packet of Paracetemol will very likely shut you down or at least
cause liver damage. But you don’t take the whole packet do you?
As Sandy Workman has just said. NO CANCER for 9yrs! Well done.
You have a great Christmas Sandy!!
The protocol I used from the above mentioned website did specify Distilled Water. Also,no food of “any sort” 2hrs before and 1hr after! You have to read and learn about it.
Any Scientist will tell you, that we are not supposed to go to the ‘after life’ in pain! Just pass naturally having worn out. What I have written here has nothing to do with me.This info is freely available and I will add is written by Doctors!!! Not all Doctors agree on everything. Over to you and to the best of good happy health.
mcca
Dec 21, 2013 @ 07:09:35
EVERYONE READ THIS WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY WILL SHOW THAT GREAT APE IS WRONG ABOUT ALMOST EVERYTHING you say because H2o2 is an oxidizer (an electron acceptor) you say it can do a bunch of bad things to your body because it is an oxidizer.You also say if you don’t die right away you will die from polongued exposure to hydrogen peroxide (cells get oxidative damage).Well your wrong its impossible here is why… your body has catalyzes enzymes in it all living organizms exposed to oxygen have them, these enzymes catalyzes the decomposition of hydrogen peroxide to water (h20) and pure oxygen (o) when introduced to the body.It is a very important enzyme in protecting the cells in the body from oxidative damagee by reactive oxygen species (ROS). Likewise, catalase has one of the highest turnover numbers of all enzymes; one catalasemolecule can convert millions of molecules of hydrogen peroxide to water and oxygen each second.All living organisms have catalyze becauseYour white blood cells release hydrogen peroxide as a number 1 defense against in vading bacteria to the blood.
mcca
Dec 21, 2013 @ 07:24:14
You said this in one of your debates (I have talked to two pharmacists and a pediatric trauma surgeon about the production of hydrogen peroxide in the body. And they all told me that the body produces H2O2 as a result of damage to the cells.) SO HOW COME WE ARE NOT DEAD YET ? 3 DOCTORS TOLD YOU THAT YOUR BODY PRODUCES IT, BUT ONLY AS A RESULT TO DAMAGED CELLS LOL FIRST OFF H2O2 CANT HELP DAMAGED CELLS SECOND OFF YOU’RE THE ONE THAT SAYS H2O2 DESTROYS YOUR TISSUE WHICH CELLS ARE IN TISSUE
mcca
Dec 21, 2013 @ 07:35:14
.in fact science has proven just recently using fish making a small cut causing bacteria to enter.They found out that h2o2 is present killing infection that entered the blood before the white blood cells even reacted. Then they altered the fish genetically and made it to where bodies couldn’t produce h2o2.They came to an astonishing discovery their white blood cells did not respond to infection.
mcca
Dec 21, 2013 @ 07:41:00
YOU ALSO SAID THIS From the data that I have gathered, (H2O2 does kill harmful pathogens, and can be used on the human body provided that it only gets on skin, minor cuts, or is swished around in the mouth without swallowing. When it comes to cancer, H2O2 can damage cancer)
YOU HAD GATHER DATA TO KNOW THAT ITS COMMON SENSE WHAT IS UP WITH YOU ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT CANCER ALL THE TIME SAYING H2O2 DOES NOT CURE CANCER OF COURS IT DOESNT CANCER WOULD HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE TO OXYGEN FOR THAT TO HAPPEN HOWEVER H2O2 CANT DAMAGE CANCER CELLS.OXYGEN ACTUALLY MAKES SPREAD
mcca
Dec 21, 2013 @ 08:54:39
You said in one of your debates you came up with an explanation like you always do When the person was claiming h2o2 therapy cured shingles in one of their family members.Why didn’t you tell them that shingles is a skin desease and that skin diseases thrive on oxygen and that it would make it worse.You didn’t tell them that cause you didn’t know. There are only 2 types of diseases skin and blood anaerobic and aerobic (Skin and blood) Blood diseases thrive on a lack of oxyen, which is why your white blood cells produce it .Also the reason your body has catalase enzymes which stop h2o2 from doing what it does oxidation-reduction (redox) a reaction that accepts an electron from another species. Because the oxidizing agent is gaining electrons its often called an electron accepter. catalase enzymes catalyzes the decomposition of hydrogen peroxide to water (h20) and pure oxygen (o) That’s why your body can produce it without killing every cell like you say it will lol.It cant catalase enzymes stop it and prevent oxitation damageYOU
Anonymous
Dec 22, 2013 @ 03:26:45
You just a pharmacutical shive
mcca
Dec 22, 2013 @ 05:31:54
One of the people you were having as debat with said one of their family members used h2o2 to cure shingles.You came up with and explanation like you do everything else .But if your so smart why didn’t you tell him h2o2 would only make shingles worse. You didn’t tell him because you didn’t know .it’s a skin desease skin diseases thrive on oxygen ,Blood diseases thrive on a lack of oxygen and cannot survive if you increase the amount of oxygen in your blood just slightly which is why the body naturally produces it.There are only 2 types of diseases skin and blood anaerobic and aerobic,skin diseases thrive on oxygen , blood diseases thrive on a lack of oxygen.
mcca
Dec 22, 2013 @ 05:43:07
You said this in one of your debates (I say that people consume both “food grade” and “pharmacy grade” H2O2. Many of the sites and doctors that recommend these therapies either don’t make the distinction, or simply advise an either-or approach) First of all even the people that stand for h2o2 therrapy do not say to use medical grade .second you are wrong saying doctors recommend either foodgrade or medical grade that either one is fine. thehe fda does not approve it doctors don’t sell it or recommend it they don’t even know about it really cause the scientists are the ones that tell the doctors of cures that work doctors just prescribe it.third if you told a doctor you were recommending using medical grade h2o2 by diluting and drinking it they would put you in the phychiatric hospital
mcca
Dec 22, 2013 @ 05:59:02
You have a link from a website talking about the potency of 35% foodgrade hydrogn peroxide at the end of the link it says for handling purposes it says nowhere in that link that people are drinking it and dieing or even saying that people do it.You say many websites thast either recommend either foodgrade or mediacal is fine.So why didn’t you put up a link to one of those websites. I do know some sites are trying to sell 35% foodgade which is stupid even diluted 35% foodgrade is too potent you have to use 3%.However no websites recommend medical grade.You also said this (Science has found many cases where the direct cause of damage to the body came from direct exposure to hydrogen peroxide in concentrated amounts, it’s been studied to death.)If its been studied so much why didn’t you put up a link of that ,(If someone does die from direct exposure to concentrated amounts of hydrogen peroxide and you did say concentrated amounts which means large amounds}They are idiots or trying to commit suicide,.its not because they were desperate either, they prolly heard rumors and didn’t use it it correctly
Anonymous
Dec 22, 2013 @ 10:42:21
iF YOU STOP DOING H2O2 THERAPY YOUR ASTHMA WILL COME BACK .h2O2 THEREAPY IF PROPERLY DONE RIGHT FIXIES ASTHMA BECAUSE IT PUTS OXYGEN SACKS BELOW YOUR LUNGS NOT IN THEM AND PUSHES OXYGEN UP INTO YOUR LUNG
Anonymous
Dec 22, 2013 @ 10:43:25
You were right about a lot of things while you were very wrong about a lot also. o before I tell you what I think of h2o2 therapy. im going to tell you all the right .so you can fix your philosophy so that way there is no room for other skepticism from other people who read what you wrote.
!.You are right about 35% h2o2 killing you even if highly deluted It is way to potent.You wouldn’t die because it steals all the electronys from the atoms in your body you would die because your stomach would be destroyed it would be like drinking acid.
1You are also right about 35% killing people im shure it has people who don’t use h2o2 therapy right
That hydrogen peroxide is an oxidizer, also that it takes electrons from other species and also that it bonds with other atoms and molecules (Oxygen has the power to bond with almost everything) it is a very electronegative element. H2o2 wants more electrons, two very electronegative atoms (the two oxygens) are deparately fighting over the electrons they have between them. This is one way that hydrogen peroxide can oxidize (steel electrons from) other molecules.
* (H2O2 CANNOT CAUSE FREE RADICALS IN THE BLOODSTREAM, IT PREVENTS OXIDITIVE DAMAGE ,IT CANNOT STEAL ELECTRONS FROM THE HUMAN BODY CELLS BECAUSE OF THE CATALASE ENZYMES THAT THE HUMAN BODY HAVE IN IT ,THESE ENZYMES ESSENTIAL FOR LIFE BECAUSE IT STOPS THE DECOMPOSITION OF H2O2 RELEASES THE UNSTABLE OXYGEN ATOMS AND BREAKS THEM DOWN INTO WATER (H20) AND PURE OXYGEN (O) (HOWEVER IF YOU INCREASE THE OXYGEN IN YOUR BLOOD TO MUCH THESE ENZYMES CANT SAVE YOU “YOU WILL DIE.”)
1. ,.You were right about dr. ottos philosophy H2o2 does not cure all types cancer there are so very many different types of cancer that there will never be 1 cure for them all, however it may be possible for an oxygen rich bloodstream to prevent some types
2 You die from aids not hiv which is an (aid) it weakens your immune system and eventually your body cannot fight off any infecton and the simplest mild common cold can kill you, (even if someone told you how do you know they are telling the truth,)(but it is a fact that viruses live in the blood and are sensitive to oxygen. Your body produces h2o2 to try to kill the virus , once that doesn’t work the white blood cells attack the virus and lose, There is not enough h2o2 or white bloodcells to win, but if you can somehow increase the oxygen in your blood to its maximum it would be impossible for a blood disease to exist it cant) Warning: if you have a higher than normal amounts of oxygen in your bloodstream and get a skin desease you would have to make the oxygen normal again, you cant take away the oxygen in your body completely which makes it very hard to cure a skin disease.
Anonymous
Dec 22, 2013 @ 10:44:18
H2o2 therapy is completely safe if you know what you are doing. however im shure it has killed a lot of people if they take in too much,
You use 3% foodgrade foodgrade hydrogen peroxide not off the shelves , but additive and stabilizer free and you also have to use distilled water.Mix 3 teaspoons into 1 gallon of water at least you can use more water and you have to store it somewhere where there is no light until consumed.
What this would do is increase the oxygen in your blood but not increase it enough to kill you
What more proof can you get than living proof. I have been drinking h2o2 the proper way for 6 years my body is fine stomach lining and throat is fine.I did not have a disease tho so I don’t know if it cures anything I did it to prevent disease therefore I cant tell you if it cures serious blood diseases.I can tell you this tho if you do it exactly how I explained it cannot hurt you what can it hurt it will benefit you.
(NEVER TRUST ANY ONE SOURCE OR MULTIPLE SOURCES EVEN IF THEY ARE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING, YOU HAVE TO DIG WAY DEEPER THAN THAT, I got my info from many sources confirmed those sources with other sources then confirmed those sources and came to a unquestionable conclusion. And eventually came across a man that has been drinking it for 10 years we talked on the phone a lot he was 80 then 86 now healthy as a horse nothing at all wrong with him.He showed me a picture of him after he just go done running a 10 mile marathon he was 85 yrs old in the picture.He taught me a lot not just on hydrogen peroxide . (He even taught me how to make my own) you cant trust what you buy online or get from others .Making it yourself is the best way to stay safe
Anonymous
Dec 22, 2013 @ 10:52:03
GREAT APE someone told you to look int mms and you said this I’ve done some research on MMS. I’m really glad that you told me about it, just not for the reasons that you were hoping for. I plan on writing a post about it, so if you want to talk more, just be patient. In the meantime,
Anonymous
Dec 22, 2013 @ 11:04:23
GREAT APE ABOUT THE MMS ARTICLE YOUR GOING TO WRITE DO NOT DO IT I REAPEAT DO NOT DO IT.WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS YOULL BE 30%RIGHT 50% WRONG.AND THE OTHER 20% WILL BE NONSENSE AND PROBABLY NOT MAKE ANY TYPE OF SENSE.YOU JUST THINK YOUR A GENIUS DONT YOU.YOU HAD TO GET WHAT YOU LIKE TO CALL DATA YOU THOUGHT WAS RIGHT TO WRITE THIS ARTICLE.EVERYTHING I SAID TO YOU IN ALL THE POSTS I WROTE CAME OUT OF MY HEAD
Anonymous
Dec 22, 2013 @ 11:06:03
YOU ALSO TOLD SOMEONE ON HERE NOT TO DOUBT YOU SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDE ALL THAT SO CALLED KNOWLEDGE CAME FROM READING SOMETHIG SOMEONE ELSE WROTE.
Anonymous
Dec 22, 2013 @ 11:07:45
I SCREWED UP THE POINT YOU WERE TRYING TO MAKE WHEN PEOPLE READ WHAT I WROTE OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU DID THEY ARE GOING TO LAUGH AT WHAT YOU WROTE
magenta
Dec 24, 2013 @ 16:26:40
we use 35%food grade in our drinking water wife has hep c /tb /and dibabetes she was a nurse for 27 years before they knew about hepc she has been on the liver transplant list for 8 years by taking home cures and drugs her melt scores have been low we live on a farm have a 2700gal water tank no city water around. i try to keep 150-250 ppm we think it is helping keep her going not everyone reacts the same to any meds
ss
Dec 29, 2013 @ 14:33:34
the above writer degrarding the h2o2,when the medical world cannot find answers to 30 major illnesses,people should try h2o2 dossage.and blood ozone therapy.
Janice Shields
Dec 31, 2013 @ 01:05:40
I beg to differ with the above article re the dangers of taking 35% hydrogen peroxide internally. I just last month cured a basal cell carcinoma (diagnosed by my family doctor) on my face with food grade peroxide. I have also taken it internally and cured bladder and sinus infections. Of course, it is toxic if not diluted properly. And chemo and radiation are not??? If I ever get any type of internal cancer, I will take my chances any day with h202 rather than going the torture and slow death route of chemo and radiation.
Janice Shields
Dec 31, 2013 @ 01:11:36
My comment is regarding the original article on the dangers of food grade peroxide. I’m glad to see the comments from others who have had success using 35% peroxide. It does work!
Anonymous
Jan 10, 2014 @ 00:32:59
What does too much hydrogen in the body do? How much does it take to reach this level and how does happen?
johnny
Jan 22, 2014 @ 07:29:05
You are wrong I will tell you why. Almost every species that lives that is exposed to oxygen, their bodies naturlly decompose low grades of h2o2 hydrogen dioxixly, simply breaking the free radical down to water (h2o) and pure oxygen (o) look up the decomposition of h2o2 in the body.However great ape you are right your body cannot decompose and break down high grades of h2o2 and it would enter your body as a free radical doing exancly like you said first it would steal the electron from either the copper or the iron in your body and then it would look to return to its original state. To return to its original state it would have to steal an electron from your cells in your body destroying them. after it returns to its original state it will repeat the process in a cycle up to a thousand times before it would not longer be able to oxidize (steal electrons) that is a thousand cells in your body destroyed.
If done properly low grades of h2o2 would be decomposed increasing your oxygen in your blood just enough so viruses, bacteria would die in its precence
johnny
Jan 22, 2014 @ 07:35:13
when done right and proper all diseases viruses, bacteria and fungie would die. There are 2 diseases anaerobic and aerobic skin and bloon.blood diseases trive on a lack of oxygen and cannot survive in oxygen rich envirnonments.Your blood already has oxygen in it. If you do this right you are only increasing your oxygen amounts slightly, but it is just slightly enough to kill everything bad. But you got to remember it is also killing the good backteria in your body and stomach.To do this right you have to gradually wean up on the h2o2 then wean down if this is done properly.Your body would naturlly restore the good bacteria in it.Your body restores it because your body naturally produces it.
johnny
Jan 22, 2014 @ 07:43:29
THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW YOU ARE RIGHT GREAT APE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS HURT AND KILL THEIRSELFES WITH H2O2.
the reason this is happening is because they reading online it will kill HIV,Herpes which it will, but they are not properly doing it.
#1 RESON AMERICANS ARE HURT OR KILLED BY H2O2
in the stores any drug stor h2o2 they sell has additives and stabalizers in it you cant use this it needs to be additive and stabalize free if not your likely to die.
#2 REASON AMERICANS ARE HURT OR KILLED WITH H2O2
Websites are selling it online in 35% which is the same as 3% you just use less but its hart to bet the right ration from 35% so never use it.
THEY HURT AND KILL THEMSELFES BECASUE THE WEBSITE JUST SELLS IT WITHOUT TELLING YOU HOW TO PROBERLY USE IT.
johnny
Jan 22, 2014 @ 07:46:42
#4REASON AMERICANS ARE HURT OR KILLED by h2o2
THey keep it in their bodies they do not wean up and gradually back down to restore the good bacteria, which if your body goes long enough without it , you are likely to die.
#5 this just makes you sick burns your throat and hurts like hell
it is not deluted enough or stupid individuals decide to drink it out of the bodle.
Jonathon Neal McCartt
Jan 24, 2014 @ 00:22:47
You are wrong. The human body naturall decomposes of low grades of h2o2 when highly deluted and introvaniously taken into the body, Your body simply breaks it down to water (h20) and pure oxygen (o) this is called the decomposition of h2o2 in the human body. Google it you will be amazed. The reason the human body breaks down this oxygen centered free radical and not letting it steal electrons from a mineral then your cells is because almost every living thing exposed to oxygen does this. However if you take in high grade H2O2 like what is used in rocket ships your body will not be able to break it down and what will happen is exactly what great ape said h2o2 will do. It will take the electon from either the coppor or iron in your body once it does that it will look to return to its origan state to do that it has to take the electron from the cells in your body because they are on an axis. Once it does that H2o2 will return to its original state and repeat this process up to a thound times before it it able to no longer able to steal electrons (oxidize)
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Jonathon Neal McCartt
Jan 24, 2014 @ 00:38:23
You are also wrong when you say it will not cure hiv/aids infact it will cure any virus viral infection bacterial and fungus in your body. The reason is because there are 2 types of diseases anaerobic and aerobid skin and blood. Blood diseases thrive on a lack of oxygen skin disease thrive on oxyen, which makes skin diseases impossible to cure only treat.There is already oxygen in your blood, but if you can increase this just a little bit it will kill everything this also means it will kill the good bacteria in your body.So you must do it in cycles stop for a while so your body can restore the good bacteria in your body and stomach and it will your body naturally produces it. If you keep using H2O2 this will not happen leading to sickness and even death. This is one of the number 1 reasons people die using H2o2. I must say the number 1 reason though is because they read crap on the interenet that is true, but don’t learn how to properly do it. They go buy H2o2 in the drug stores which has additives and stabalizers in it, you cant use it you have to get it speciall made without. I must tell how to do it so this does not happen to anyone reading this site. Use 3% foodgrad not 35% you can but it would be hard to find the right ratio. Mix 1 tsp of 3% into 1 gallon of water do this for 2-5 days then 2 tsp then 3tsp then work down just like you worked up 3 then 2 then 1 then none then stop. This is the only safe way recognized by me you will hear a lot of rumors but if you are not 100% right about something, then keep your mouth shut untill you are.
Jonathon Neal McCartt
Jan 24, 2014 @ 01:08:28
you must do this remody on an empy stomach or h2o2 will turn to a superoxide anion and you will die
Jonathon Neal McCartt
Jan 24, 2014 @ 06:37:24
YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT SO MUCH GREAT APE BUT YOU ARE ALSO RIGHT ABOUT A LOT ALSO. EDUCATE YOURSELFES ON H2O2 BY READING WHAT I AM GOING TO WRITE NOT GOING ON EDUCATEYOURSELF.ORG AND GREAT APE I KNOW YOU PLAN ON WRITING OTHER ARTICLES ABOUT THINGS I READ WHAT YOU WROTE IF YOU ARE NOT 100% RIGHT IT IS BEST TO BE QUIET UNTIL YOU ARE YOU CANT JUST READ MOST OF THINGS AND THINK THEY ARE TRUE. By reading this article I wrote your scientific knowledge of H2o2 will be great in your knowledge great ape and you do have the knowlede to make a difference. I leave no room for what if, and, or but everyones questions will be answere.
I AM WRITING THIS TO EXPOSE THE WORLD TO THE TRUTH IN A WAY YOU CANNOT DENY AND AN EASIER SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND: THERE ARE A LOT OF RUMORS, SO I AM ELIMINATING ALL OF THEM WITH THIS ARTICLE ON H2O2
The human body naturally decomposes of low grades of h2o2 hydrogen dioxide, which you know as hydrogen peroxide, when highly deluted and introvaniously taken into the body, there are enzymes in Your body that simply breaks it down to water (h20) and pure oxygen (o) increasing the oxygen in your blood. This is called the decomposition of h2o2 in the human body. Google it you will be amazed. The reason the human body breaks down H2O2 in the body, is because it has enzymes in it that catalyze the decomposition of h2o2 simply breaking it down and it does not enter your body as a free radical. ,almost every living thing that is exposed to oxygen simply breaks down H2O2 in the body. However if you take in high grades of H2O2 like what is used in rocket ships it will happen just as great ape says ,your body will not be able to break it down and what will happen is h2o2 will steal the electon from either the coppor or iron in your body once it does that it will look to return to its origanal state, to do that it has to take the electron from the cells in your body because they are on an axis destroying the cell. Once it does that H2o2 will return to its original state and repeat this process up to a thound times
Scientist and most doctors can get you to belive whatever you what to believe. They do not want to expose the truth to the whole world. It is Population control and will hurt the economy, affect the pharmacutical companies nobody will be buying cold meds. Doctors will lose a lot of buisness nobody will be getting sick. H2o2 cannot be taxed by the government the ingredients are natural too easy to access and it is too easy to make. They are wrong when the say it will not cure hiv/aids and other diseases it will however not cancer there are so many types of cancer there will never be 1 cure. I will explain this in a way you cannot deny it is the truth. it will cure any virus, viral infection, bacteria and fungus in your bloodstream. The reason is because there are 2 types of diseases anaerobic and aerobid skin and blood. Blood diseases thrive on a lack of oxygen skin disease thrive on oxyen, which makes skin diseases impossible to cure only treat because you cannot decrease the oxygen in the body you can only increase it. There is already oxygen in your blood, but if you can increase this just a little bit it will kill everything this also means it will kill the good bacteria in your body and stomach .So you must do it in cycles stop for a while so your body can restore the good bacteria in your body and stomach that body naturally produces it. If you keep continuously use H2O2 this will not happen leading to sickness and even death. This is one of the main reasons people die using H2o2. I must say the number 1 reason though is because they read crap on the interenet that is true, but don’t learn how to properly do it because it is not explained. They go buy H2o2 in the drug stores which has additives and stabalizers in it, you cannot use it you have to get it special made without. I must tell how to do it so this does not happen to anyone reading this site. Use 3% foodgrade not 35%, you can, but it would be hard to find the right ratio factor. Mix 1 tsp of 3% additive and stabalize free into 1 gallon of water do this for 3 to 5 days then 2 tsp then 3tsp, then work down just like you worked up 3 then 2 then 1 then stop you have to wean off because your body gets used to the higher oxygen in the blood. You must do this on an emty stomach if not a superoxide anion will enter your body which is the worst free radical. This is the only safe way recognized by me there is no other safe way. you will hear a lot of rumors but if you are not 100% right about something, then keep your mouth shut untill you are. GREAT APE SHOULD TAKE THAT ADVICE FOR THE OTHER ARTICLES HE PLANS ON WRITING.
the wiz kid
Jan 24, 2014 @ 06:51:49
The human body naturally decomposes of low grades of h2o2 hydrogen dioxide, which you know as hydrogen peroxide, when highly deluted and introvaniously taken into the body, there are enzymes in Your body that simply breaks it down to water (h20) and pure oxygen (o) increasing the oxygen in your blood. This is called the decomposition of h2o2 in the human body. Google it you will be amazed. The reason the human body breaks down H2O2 in the body, is because it has enzymes in it that catalyze the decomposition of h2o2 simply breaking it down and it does not enter your body as a free radical. ,almost every living thing that is exposed to oxygen simply breaks down H2O2 in the body. However if you take in high grades of H2O2 like what is used in rocket ships it will happen just as great ape says ,your body will not be able to break it down and what will happen is h2o2 will steal the electon from either the coppor or iron in your body once it does that it will look to return to its origanal state, to do that it has to take the electron from the cells in your body because they are on an axis destroying the cell. Once it does that H2o2 will return to its original state and repeat this process up to a thound times
the wiz kid
Jan 24, 2014 @ 07:00:51
H2O2 will cure hiv/aids and other diseases it will however it will not cure cancer there are so many types of cancer there will never be just 1 cure. I . it will cure any virus, viral infection including herpes, bacteria and fungus in your bloodstream. The reason is because there are 2 types of diseases anaerobic and aerobid skin and blood. Blood diseases thrive on a lack of oxygen skin disease thrive on oxyen, which makes skin diseases impossible to cure only treat because you cannot decrease the oxygen in the body you can only increase it. There is already oxygen in your blood, but if you can increase this just a little bit it will kill everything this also means it will kill the good bacteria in your body and stomach .So you must do it in cycles stop for a while so your body can restore the good bacteria in your body and stomach that body
Anonymous
Feb 07, 2014 @ 11:42:32
So he provides links to kabal owned organization’s that suppress cheap cures while promoting chemo amd radiation which is no doubt horrible for humans. So who do you believe, mutli-billion dollar profit driven organizations or possibly using oxygen therapy which is dirt cheap and so can’t be turned into profit.
The links you provided doesn’t “prove” anything.
Stephen
Feb 09, 2014 @ 21:55:18
Hey, I did some math as I started this myself. I won’t post any for-or-against, you’ve had enough of that.
I filled my dropper to 1ml, and counted how many drops came out of it. Approx 22 drops. Using some stoichiometry, I figured that half a ml of 35% peroxide in 250ml of water (which is very close to one cup) is 0.07% solution. Since the maximum dosage is twice that (22 drops), give or take a few drops, this means that the maximum recommended dosage is ~ 0.14%. This means that anyone taking the maximum dosage is well under one percent.
When I looked up the toxicity, I couldn’t find much as far as official docs. Actually your links were the best on that. It was generally agreed that 10% is the border between bad idea and just stupid idea. I was curious because I wanted to try this myself, so why not find out for myself the dangers.
So, I’m not saying it helps or hurts as far as disease goes, but the percentage of solution does not strike me as anywhere near the danger area.
If you can find research on 0.03% to 0.2% solutions, taken 1 hour before and 3 hours after meals, I’m very interested. Obviously I lean towards natural things, but I follow scientific process, and I don’t agree with anyone who doesn’t. So your article was very nice in my opinion!
james smith
Feb 15, 2014 @ 17:43:13
Food Grade H202 worked great for me, read “one minute cure” Sounds like the “Ape” is a paid basher by big pharma.
Anonymous
Feb 19, 2014 @ 19:12:15
I found this blog while researching the experiences of others with 35% hydrogen peroxide therapy. I’m currently on the protocol. I’m on day 10.
So far, I’ve noticed an increased amount of energy, especially shortly after taking the (diluted) 35% HP. This is one of many “alternative” therapies/cleanses I have tried. Some work well, and with some I don’t notice much of a difference.
While I appreciate any blog where someone has the courage to shares his/her thoughts, you come across quite defensive of such things you seem to know very little about. I’ve read the blog up to this point. It’s hardly encouraging to want to participate in a discussion like this when there is little credible follow-up in response to those who talk of their experience. This matter of hydrogen peroxide is indicative on a large scale of how a person allows the experience of others to change him. Instead of defending what sounds like a hollow position, I encourage you to seek answers beyond the mainstream corners of your attitude.
Terrence
Feb 27, 2014 @ 10:48:26
I think is the best response I have heard from you great ape thoughts “I’m glad that I was able to educate at least one person about hydrogen peroxide. If you’re still paying any attention to this little debate, please take this one piece of advice to heart. Don’t blindly follow medical advice you find on the internet. Talk to a trusted doctor about any major changes to your medical regimen that you plan to make.”
I recently bought the 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide but I have not used it yet because I still have an ill feeling about this “so-called” cure. I have heard a few testimonies that sounds “too good to be true”.
One guy said that he used it for helping with his herpes sores then when he stop taking the solution, the sores returned. That doesn’t sound like a cure to me. (just stating the obvious)
This discussion has me torn between the different views and I will keep researching this topic until I find something real. Now I’m clear about the using the 35% food grade version with the right dosage in the proper dilution of distilled water but there are still some uncertainties that have me scared to use it. Besides I don’t have any diseases so I’m not sure if I should be taking this anyways. So for now I am not convince of this “so called” cure and maybe that will change in the future. Surely if this method is approved by the FDA then I will be confident. I don’t want to hear any responses referring about “big pharm and profits” This is just my own opinion about what makes me feel safe. I want to be 100% sure what I am introducing into my body is approved. Well as close to 100% percent as possible lol.
Terrence
Max the Mad
Feb 27, 2014 @ 23:52:30
Yet pumping people full of toxic chemicals is no problem? But wait there’s radiation too! But wait again, sometimes these treatments work. I’ll bet the h2o2 has success with some too. I’m trying it for gastrointest help, and it has helped. However, like anything if problems arise or you think it’s a waste–stop. IBM motto here.
barry
Mar 02, 2014 @ 14:14:02
You sir clearly work for government,fda,currupt administration,etc.etc. Nobody in their right mind would ever try to ingest or inject 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide. It is way to toxic. But the fact is it does work on most if not all diseases. It does oxygenate the body at cell level thru every crook and cranny of our tissues thus killing cancer,bacteria,viruses,fungus,hiv,etc.etc. Noone has been able to disprove this. Noone. Our government would not get the multi billion dollars revenue from medicine if this became popular there fore they hire lying scum like you to discredit this and every other successful treatment. Unless it’s kemo it is bad according to the greedy sobs running drug companies. So shut tfu and crawl back your rock you came from. The truth never changes and will prevail.
Colleen Sundby
Mar 05, 2014 @ 08:24:52
Studies from Vanderbilt University
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/oxygen.htm
After years of being on Valtrex to supress herpes out breaks my liver can’t take it any more so the medication no longer work – big pharm meds are killing me when they said it was safe to take indefinitely. Without suppressive therapy, I have back to back outbreaks consistently. I would like to have my sex life back with my husband.
I’ve been researching alternative therapies and have tried many herbal supplements, diet changes, etc without success. I’m willing to give the HP therapy a try because, like some previous posters said, drinking too much water, taking too much vitamins or minerals, even toothpaste in excessive amounts can kill you – but they’re all good for you in moderation.
The link I provided is only one of many sites I visited that stated HP therapy could work to supress out breaks. Though this site in particular has nothing to say about the benefits using HP as a suppressive therapy, it does quote studies with some positive results that I though I’d share.
And thank you for all the posters telling me your success stories. I really hope this works 🙂
Anonymous
Mar 13, 2014 @ 07:29:59
how can you explain the testimony of those people who use H202 to treat their dreadful diseases? there are plenty of them in youtube. what benefits will they get if they said that they are taking 35% FGHP when their disease got cured? beside 35% FGHP is very cheap and unbranded. you need to provide a lot of studies to back up your claim.
Brian Donovan
Mar 14, 2014 @ 09:00:42
go to http://www.eurekalert.org/pubnews.php
and search peroxide. there is plenty of research and it is highly plausible that ingesting small amounts of dilute peroxide could be helpful against cancer, bacteria infection, healing problems, you name it. It might also be bad for certain conditions. you should have researched it better.
peroxide
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-05/plos-thp052011.php The healing power of hydrogen peroxide
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-06/hms-hpm060109.php Hydrogen peroxide marshals immune system
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-11/uow-hpp112111.php Hydrogen peroxide provides clues to immunity, wound healing and tumor biology
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-12/jhm-hpv123112.php Hydrogen peroxide vapor enhances hospital disinfection of superbugs
Truth Bearer
Mar 26, 2014 @ 14:30:57
Really fed up with the scare mongering of the uninformed and those who stand to lose their tidy little profiteering rackets from the sick and elderly – like the medical, ‘naturopathic’ (yes, even they’re just as bad!), and pharmaceutical industries.
I’ve woken up and taken a good look around at the so called ‘health industry’ and what I’ve seen, is disgusting.
Doctors aren’t interested in ‘curing’ anyone of anything – they’ve become nothing more than glorified drug pushers for drug companies – all they know about the drugs they peddle, is what drug company reps tell them, while pharmacists have become nothing more than glorified storemen for drug companies.
Use your intelligence and think about it.
Disease is a money-making gold mine for the big pharmas – and it’s the sick and elderly who are forced, bullied, conned, tricked and lied to, in order to keep the gold mines thriving.
It’s time to take the mongrels down, and hydrogen peroxide can do exactly that.
USE ONLY 3% FOOD GRADE Hydrogen Peroxide (unless you have the patience to fiddle around with constantly diluting the 35% variety), which most of the scare mongering idiots won’t tell you – so avoid the crap sold in supermarkets and pharmacies, because they’re loaded with toxic stabilizers.
Uppity
Apr 12, 2014 @ 06:09:15
H202 has literally been keeping me alive, in my view. I wish I had discovered it before I was diagnosed with cancer, but alas, there are a lot of what ifs. So, I take food grade H202 in distilled water, following the strict instructions of the One Minute Cure and other literature, and have been taking it every day for 11 months, since a scan revealed my breast cancer had spread to my lungs and bones. The last scan a few months back showed there’s been no appreciable growth in the level of cancer cells in my body. What was striking was that after six days of starting the protocol (back in May of last year), my mood felt strongly better. I didn’t attribute it to the H202 at first because I had no expectations it would work. But then my energy levels increased, I slept better, a noncontagious skin condition on the backs of my arms called keratosis pilarus disappeared (I’d had it since I was 16. I’m now 51), and I haven’t had a cold or flu since. Yes it can be a bit unsettling on the gut when you’re deep into the protocol and the dosage is high. But I now do one glass a day, with 17 drops in it. The thing is, so many commenters are warning of the dangers, but if you follow the protocol, ie distilled water, leaving several hours between ingesting food, it’s simple and easy and there’s no risk. There’s no money in it for any pharmaceutical company to promote it. Just seek out the appropriate literature, trust the fact that people used it liberally before drug companies pushed it out to the margins, and follow your own path. I personally think it’s given me more time and for that I’m grateful. It’s really been the most profound treatment of anything I’ve done for my cancer and thank god I had the guts to try it.
Dick
Apr 25, 2014 @ 01:03:47
The medical and pharmaceutical professions use anecdotal evidence when it is to their advantage. Take “second hand smoke causes cancer” that they are always claiming. Show me the clinical trials where they took 10,000 people and exposed them to second hand tobacco smoke, and another 10,000 people and exposed them to imitation tobacco smoke, and another 10,000 people who were not exposed to any smoke, and compare how many got cancer in each group. Obviously there never was such a clinical test, but that doesn’t stop them from claiming it, as it it had been proven.
If someone who works in a place were people smoke gets cancer that’s just anecdotal evidence. If 10,000 people get cancer, its still anecdotal evidence, not clinical proof, by their own standards..
The demand for clinical trials is often made for herbs and other remedies that cannot be patented, because who would pay the millions of dollars to test a natural product that cannot be patented. No way to recouver the tremendous expense.
Dick
cvgus
May 08, 2014 @ 11:51:59
Reading this in Germany. Its a schame this article is listed with google so high.
Take 200gr of salt at once and you will die. Take no more salt and your will die also. Why are there no studies and warnings on salt? There is a leathal dose of everything.
I am following the protocoll of drinking for now 12 days. I have been using steroides an my asthma fpr 32 Years! On day 6 of the protocol I simply forgot to take my Steroid! I needed it again the next day, primarilly because I could not believe it. 32 years form a deep habit! I will keep going!! Am currently down to one third of my normal dose of steroids.
When my wife asked me about the danger, and that I should not put the 35% in the bathroom. My simple anwser was: Which of all of these bottles in the bath do contain anything you can drink? There were none!
There is a good book an H2O2 from a german doctor summarizing the research done at Leipzig university during the 60ths. They were using 35% as a mouthrinse, with great results on certain conditions. Try to put a drop of 35% on your finger. It will get white first and turn normal within a couple of hours. Same will happen in your mouth. It is not that dangerous. No need to flush with water. Still you should not drink 35% nor should you bath in it.
Franki
May 13, 2014 @ 09:03:40
Great ape, how many cases of people do we have ,to have died of drinking hydrogen peroxide as per directions of the therapy?
Doctor great ape, there’s no cases ! Let people be,, it’s good for them and by faith after everything had failed ! At least there’s positive testimonies more than negative ones.
Shazza
May 21, 2014 @ 00:58:08
I am a huge fan of H202. I used to always get sick and felt so so tired. Started taking 15 drops in the morning before work once a day 12 months ago and have got energy to burn. No sign of any illness. I cant remember feeling this good in a long time.